View Full Version : What should I shoot for?


David06
01-14-2007, 01:26 AM
Hi, I haven't started training yet. Don't really plan to until at least March(middle of wrestling season right now, it would be almost impossible to start training now)


ANYWAYS. I'm wondering what weight class I would most likely be fighting in. Or I guess what I should try to fight in. I weigh around 194(wrestle at 189) but I have ~16% body fat, so I definitely have some fat I could lose. I'm thinking I could drop to ~170 or so, and probably a little more if necessary. But this would require losing only fat and gaining no muscle.

So, should I try to lose as much weight as possible to fight in the lowest weight class possible? Or should I just not worry about it, start training, lose weight without any kind of goal, and see where I end up? Or lose fat and bulk up a little bit(I'm really kind of weak compared to most guys my weight) and maybe be at 175-180 with some decent muscle.

Any opinions are appreciated.

Edit-Also, I'm around 5'11", if that makes a difference.

dario
01-14-2007, 10:26 AM
most def try to lose weight first, imo

Animal Squabbs
01-14-2007, 08:37 PM
most def try to lose weight first, imo

yup, thats what Im doing, Im at 270 and hoping to someday get to 175 but I dont think thats possible because of my frame.

Kayo
01-14-2007, 08:58 PM
I say just start training hard and see where your body takes you.
Its good to see another wrestler on here though. But one thing i dont get is...why arent you trying to get down into lower weights right now in wrestling?

David06
01-15-2007, 12:39 AM
I say just start training hard and see where your body takes you.
Its good to see another wrestler on here though. But one thing i dont get is...why arent you trying to get down into lower weights right now in wrestling?

Well if I dropped to 171 I would have to beat our current 171 to even be able to wrestle at 171, otherwise I would weigh 171 and have to wrestle 189. I probably couldn't beat him(he's not very good, but I'm a first year wrestler so he's still better than I am).

Besides that, the season will be over in a month or so. I'd have to lose ~20 LBs in less than a month. Not exactly healthy.

yrrej
01-15-2007, 12:41 AM
If you can wrestle competitively at 189, you can box at 189.....

David06
01-15-2007, 12:59 AM
If you can wrestle competitively at 189, you can box at 189.....
Well I wrestle at 189, but I don't know if it's what you would call "competitively". I'm a first year wrestler, and as a senior, I am required to wrestle varsity. 1st year wrestler+varsity=ownage at times.

But hey I'm trying my best. Anyways. I don't really see myself boxing at 189. This would mean I either lose no fat, or I lose fat and replace it with muscle. Since I probably won't hit the weights very hard, I can't imagine gaining very much muscle.

potatoes
01-15-2007, 01:51 PM
Hi, I haven't started training yet. Don't really plan to until at least March(middle of wrestling season right now, it would be almost impossible to start training now)


ANYWAYS. I'm wondering what weight class I would most likely be fighting in. Or I guess what I should try to fight in. I weigh around 194(wrestle at 189) but I have ~16% body fat, so I definitely have some fat I could lose. I'm thinking I could drop to ~170 or so, and probably a little more if necessary. But this would require losing only fat and gaining no muscle.

So, should I try to lose as much weight as possible to fight in the lowest weight class possible? Or should I just not worry about it, start training, lose weight without any kind of goal, and see where I end up? Or lose fat and bulk up a little bit(I'm really kind of weak compared to most guys my weight) and maybe be at 175-180 with some decent muscle.

Any opinions are appreciated.

Edit-Also, I'm around 5'11", if that makes a difference.




The great Cus D'Amato didn't believe in weight targets and I would agree with him. What you should do is get in boxing shape and fight at that weight. Accept your body as it is and don't trying to impose any silly agendas which will only compromise your performance and your health. Amateur wrestlers have many of the same problems to overcome as boxers, so you should be familiar with how to get in shape. If you are a naturally bulky man then you will need to learn how to "fight small" as it is termed in boxing. Be sure to find a trainer who knows his business and is aware of these things.

fraidycat
01-15-2007, 03:49 PM
The great Cus D'Amato didn't believe in weight targets and I would agree with him. What you should do is get in boxing shape and fight at that weight. Accept your body as it is and don't trying to impose any silly agendas which will only compromise your performance and your health. Amateur wrestlers have many of the same problems to overcome as boxers, so you should be familiar with how to get in shape. If you are a naturally bulky man then you will need to learn how to "fight small" as it is termed in boxing. Be sure to find a trainer who knows his business and is aware of these things.

Very, very good answer, 'Tatoes. Every now and again you come up with something like this, and then I feel bad for jumping on your **** for the things we disagree on.

Kayo
01-15-2007, 11:06 PM
The great Cus D'Amato didn't believe in weight targets and I would agree with him. What you should do is get in boxing shape and fight at that weight. Accept your body as it is and don't trying to impose any silly agendas which will only compromise your performance and your health. Amateur wrestlers have many of the same problems to overcome as boxers, so you should be familiar with how to get in shape. If you are a naturally bulky man then you will need to learn how to "fight small" as it is termed in boxing. Be sure to find a trainer who knows his business and is aware of these things.

one of the smartest things you've said

Kayo
01-15-2007, 11:08 PM
Well I wrestle at 189, but I don't know if it's what you would call "competitively". I'm a first year wrestler, and as a senior, I am required to wrestle varsity. 1st year wrestler+varsity=ownage at times.

But hey I'm trying my best. Anyways. I don't really see myself boxing at 189. This would mean I either lose no fat, or I lose fat and replace it with muscle. Since I probably won't hit the weights very hard, I can't imagine gaining very much muscle.

Yeah i know what you mean...when i first joined their were alot of kids who had been doing it since they were in grade 6 and they just ****ing destroyed me. It takes a few years to get good at it though. Its my 3rd year now and im coming out of my shell lol