i think it would help me get used to squating so much when i fight cause that **** makes me tired. i value your opinions thanx:wave:

Problem is, squats are so effective that you'll be really sore the next couple days. That soreness could affect your roadwork or sparring etc. just try and space it out, like if you train through the work week, do your squats on friday and take the weekend off for example.

Problem is, squats are so effective that you'll be really sore the next couple days. That soreness could affect your roadwork or sparring etc. just try and space it out, like if you train through the work week, do your squats on friday and take the weekend off for example.

yeah like every other day.thanx for the input

http://store.titleboxing.com/speedtrainer.html orhttp://store.titleboxing.com/strength-weighted-shorts.html the shorts. i would have alot more explosive power

just start squatin a little at first and then build up
squats will help you alot
and eventually your legs will get used to it and not be so sore the next day

Squats are good for you. I think at this stage in your boxing, adding squats to your workout will only help. Especially since your always going to be short for your weight class and you will have to use your legs. Im going to start doing squats again soon.

Squats are good for you. I think at this stage in your boxing, adding squats to your workout will only help. Especially since your always going to be short for your weight class and you will have to use your legs. Im going to start doing squats again soon.

what u think of the weighted wear i have links to

I just looked at it now. Man that **** looks cool, and I want one. It looks like it would work. I might actually buy it too. I really need to build my muscle endurance up in my legs. My coach always makes me bend my legs, to slip punches to get inside, and it tires me out quickly.

I don't havr very good knees, I wonder if squats with light weights could build the muscles around them up some.

I don't havr very good knees, I wonder if squats with light weights could build the muscles around them up some.

light weights and then build up,depending how your legs feel could

I don't havr very good knees, I wonder if squats with light weights could build the muscles around them up some.

not to be a smartass or anything, but i don't think it's your muscles
it may be your joints and such
i could be wrong though

but yeah like he said, do some light weight and gradually add the weight so your knees have time to get stronger and hold more weight

I don't havr very good knees, I wonder if squats with light weights could build the muscles around them up some.

Yes. I've spoken to people who have had knee problems and started doing squats, real squats with a bar and plates on it mind you, and their knees have become much stronger. One person in particular told me that his chiropractor said, "whatever your doing it's working".

not to be a smartass or anything, but i don't think it's your muscles
it may be your joints and such
i could be wrong though

but yeah like he said, do some light weight and gradually add the weight so your knees have time to get stronger and hold more weight

The point is to build up muscle around the knee to aid the bad joints.

i bet those things im going to get will make my thighs burn when i run up hill.

I had occasional soreness in my left knee from an unwarmed up kick back in my karate days. It popped up now and then, particularly when I was doing shadow boxing and working on footwork. I started doing Hindu Squats mixed with squats holding a 15 pound medicine ball over my head. I have to say I have no more knee pain at all. Now I don't know if that is best for other people on account of the type of injury they may have suffered but the squats worked for me very well. No more soreness when I work out and my legs are much stronger.

What is the purpose of doing squats as regards boxing? How often do you see a boxer squat in the ring? Practice squats, but only to the extent that you see boxers bend their legs in actual fights. That's all the strength you need. Not that there's anything wrong with squatting, but it takes a lot of energy you could be using to develop fighting skills.....

What is the purpose of doing squats as regards boxing? How often do you see a boxer squat in the ring? Practice squats, but only to the extent that you see boxers bend their legs in actual fights. That's all the strength you need. Not that there's anything wrong with squatting, but it takes a lot of energy you could be using to develop fighting skills.....

not alot but for my style i do do lot of squating and coming up with shots. takes a toll on your legs

I don't havr very good knees, I wonder if squats with light weights could build the muscles around them up some.

Absolutely. I fractures both kneecaps in a car wreck when I was 22. I started lifting weights on the advice of my physical therapist once I got out. I have arthritis in both knees, now; if I don't squat, the winters here (cold + damp) are really bad for me. Having strong quads keeps my weight off the joints, which helps a lot.

Vers, you should have known better than to have asked this question. Christ, look at your physique! I know you lift weights; I saw that camera phone video of you putting up 195 on the bench and your form was perfect. So you should already know that squats are just about the best overall exercise you can do, whatever sport you're in. A properly-performed deep squat works 75% of the muscles in your body. Deep squats build coordination, balance, flexibility, functional strength, and explosive power. Professional athletes from NFL linemen to figure skaters use the squat as the foundation of their weight training.

Yes, yrrej, boxers don't bend their knees clear down into full-squat position. But half-squats are bad for your knees and can be very bad for your back. Stopping and starting the squatting motion with the thighs above parallel places tremendous strain on the ligaments of the knee, and when changing direction in the middle of the motion, one tends to cheat the weight and "bounce," which puts a load on the lower back and compresses the spine, which is extremely dangerous. You need to go to the bottom of the motion, rest for a moment until there is no further downward motion from the bar or your body, and then press back up. A similar, but opposite, motion to a dead-hang chin-up.

:soapbox: I hate to sound like a schmuck, but is there anyone else on this site -- hell, in this sport -- who actually knows and understands weightlifting as it pertains to athletic training? I feel like I'm writing the same posts every couple of weeks.

You all would seriously -- SERIOUSLY -- do very well to drop over to www.bodybuilding.com, check out the articles on fat loss and sports training, watch the videos of the lifts performed properly, and start to learn the science of athletic training. I'm not suggesting that you take up bodybuilding, but even the casual fratboy gym rat taking NOXplode and pumping his biceps is lightyears beyond most boxers I've ever met when it comes to the cutting edge of emerging athletic-performance science. EDIT: It's enlightening to talk to a guy who looks like he can't spell, but who can talk your ear off about nitrogen retention, hydration, glycogen depletion, ATP, vanadyl sulfate supplementation vs. gylcemic index mapping, and the finer points of protein intake. And yet at my gym, boxers still argue over the pros and cons of Gatorade.:nonono:

I do believe that a certified athletic trainer, with a background in exercise physiology, a finger on the pulse of athletic science, and a love of boxing, would make a killing in this game.

:thinking: Maybe I should switch careers.

Absolutely. I fractures both kneecaps in a car wreck when I was 22. I started lifting weights on the advice of my physical therapist once I got out. I have arthritis in both knees, now; if I don't squat, the winters here (cold + damp) are really bad for me. Having strong quads keeps my weight off the joints, which helps a lot.

Vers, you should have known better than to have asked this question. Christ, look at your physique! I know you lift weights; I saw that camera phone video of you putting up 195 on the bench and your form was perfect. So you should already know that squats are just about the best overall exercise you can do, whatever sport you're in. A properly-performed deep squat works 75% of the muscles in your body. Deep squats build coordination, balance, flexibility, functional strength, and explosive power. Professional athletes from NFL linemen to figure skaters use the squat as the foundation of their weight training.

Yes, yrrej, boxers don't bend their knees clear down into full-squat position. But half-squats are bad for your knees and can be very bad for your back. Stopping and starting the squatting motion with the thighs above parallel places tremendous strain on the ligaments of the knee, and when changing direction in the middle of the motion, one tends to cheat the weight and "bounce," which puts a load on the lower back and compresses the spine, which is extremely dangerous. You need to go to the bottom of the motion, rest for a moment until there is no further downward motion from the bar or your body, and then press back up. A similar, but opposite, motion to a dead-hang chin-up.

:soapbox: I hate to sound like a schmuck, but is there anyone else on this site -- hell, in this sport -- who actually knows and understands weightlifting as it pertains to athletic training? I feel like I'm writing the same posts every couple of weeks.

You all would seriously -- SERIOUSLY -- do very well to drop over to www.bodybuilding.com, check out the articles on fat loss and sports training, watch the videos of the lifts performed properly, and start to learn the science of athletic training. I'm not suggesting that you take up bodybuilding, but even the casual fratboy gym rat taking NOXplode and pumping his biceps is lightyears beyond most boxers I've ever met when it comes to the cutting edge of emerging athletic-performance science. At my gym, boxers still argue over the pros and cons of Gatorade.:nonono:

I do believe that a certified athletic trainer, with a background in exercise physiology, a finger on the pulse of athletic science, and a love of boxing, would make a killing in this game.

:thinking: Maybe I should switch careers.


ahahaha actually i dont lift weights i took that video to show an old poster that i can do it he didnt believe i could nor did he believe my friend who weighs 140 could neither. and that weight was 225lb. im just born the way i am.its rare i guess but yeah im just born like this. i gain muscle rapidly fast.reason why i dont lift weights

ahahaha actually i dont lift weights i took that video to show an old poster that i can do it he didnt believe i could nor did he believe my friend who weighs 140 could neither. and that weight was 225lb. im just born the way i am.its rare i guess but yeah im just born like this. i gain muscle rapidly fast.reason why i dont lift weights

:nonono: ****er. I worked for years to look like you. A long time ago, mind you.

Squat. Learn how and do it right. It'll help your boxing.

:nonono: ****er. I worked for years to look like you. A long time ago, mind you.

Squat. Learn how and do it right. It'll help your boxing.

yeah i was thinkin bout squats but that suit might work good. oh yeah. the last time i actually lifted lifted was 5 years ago for athletics .ahahaha

Absolutely. I fractures both kneecaps in a car wreck when I was 22. I started lifting weights on the advice of my physical therapist once I got out. I have arthritis in both knees, now; if I don't squat, the winters here (cold + damp) are really bad for me. Having strong quads keeps my weight off the joints, which helps a lot.

Vers, you should have known better than to have asked this question. Christ, look at your physique! I know you lift weights; I saw that camera phone video of you putting up 195 on the bench and your form was perfect. So you should already know that squats are just about the best overall exercise you can do, whatever sport you're in. A properly-performed deep squat works 75% of the muscles in your body. Deep squats build coordination, balance, flexibility, functional strength, and explosive power. Professional athletes from NFL linemen to figure skaters use the squat as the foundation of their weight training.

Yes, yrrej, boxers don't bend their knees clear down into full-squat position. But half-squats are bad for your knees and can be very bad for your back. Stopping and starting the squatting motion with the thighs above parallel places tremendous strain on the ligaments of the knee, and when changing direction in the middle of the motion, one tends to cheat the weight and "bounce," which puts a load on the lower back and compresses the spine, which is extremely dangerous. You need to go to the bottom of the motion, rest for a moment until there is no further downward motion from the bar or your body, and then press back up. A similar, but opposite, motion to a dead-hang chin-up.

:soapbox: I hate to sound like a schmuck, but is there anyone else on this site -- hell, in this sport -- who actually knows and understands weightlifting as it pertains to athletic training? I feel like I'm writing the same posts every couple of weeks.

You all would seriously -- SERIOUSLY -- do very well to drop over to www.bodybuilding.com, check out the articles on fat loss and sports training, watch the videos of the lifts performed properly, and start to learn the science of athletic training. I'm not suggesting that you take up bodybuilding, but even the casual fratboy gym rat taking NOXplode and pumping his biceps is lightyears beyond most boxers I've ever met when it comes to the cutting edge of emerging athletic-performance science. EDIT: It's enlightening to talk to a guy who looks like he can't spell, but who can talk your ear off about nitrogen retention, hydration, glycogen depletion, ATP, vanadyl sulfate supplementation vs. gylcemic index mapping, and the finer points of protein intake. And yet at my gym, boxers still argue over the pros and cons of Gatorade.:nonono:

I do believe that a certified athletic trainer, with a background in exercise physiology, a finger on the pulse of athletic science, and a love of boxing, would make a killing in this game.

:thinking: Maybe I should switch careers.

i do deep squats - with very light weight or none at all, and my knees feel great after and i have arthritis. i think it's actually strengthened my knees, i don't have any scientific evidence to prove this, i'm going by feel before and after i work out.

also fraidy, u should really be taking glucosamine, since i started on that stuff a couple years ago, my joints never get as stiff as they used to. if u take it, u'll be feel like playing with gruntruck again

http://store.titleboxing.com/speedtrainer.html orhttp://store.titleboxing.com/strength-weighted-shorts.html the shorts. i would have alot more explosive power

those things are fine, but not really necessary. You could do plyometric jumps with dumbells in your hand to get explosive power for example. Or you could just throw some weight into a backpack, strap it on, and then run up a hill. Or push your car around an empty lot, if you have a car. There are a million different gadgets out there, but rather than waste money you could get the same benefits with basic equipment.

those things are fine, but not really necessary. You could do plyometric jumps with dumbells in your hand to get explosive power for example. Or you could just throw some weight into a backpack, strap it on, and then run up a hill. Or push your car around an empty lot, if you have a car. There are a million different gadgets out there, but rather than waste money you could get the same benefits with basic equipment.

yeah i could. but these pants and vest u can where everywhere. i would look weird wearing a backpack to work or to boxing.hell even sparring

If u can learn good technique with squats and jump squats u can gain alot of punching power. I have a long upper body but large powerful legs. I use my legs and hips to put alot of power into my punches. I think most people go to heavy and just do more harm than good, just take your time and work on technique first and build up slowly. Peace

Absolutely. I fractures both kneecaps in a car wreck when I was 22. I started lifting weights on the advice of my physical therapist once I got out. I have arthritis in both knees, now; if I don't squat, the winters here (cold + damp) are really bad for me. Having strong quads keeps my weight off the joints, which helps a lot.

Vers, you should have known better than to have asked this question. Christ, look at your physique! I know you lift weights; I saw that camera phone video of you putting up 195 on the bench and your form was perfect. So you should already know that squats are just about the best overall exercise you can do, whatever sport you're in. A properly-performed deep squat works 75% of the muscles in your body. Deep squats build coordination, balance, flexibility, functional strength, and explosive power. Professional athletes from NFL linemen to figure skaters use the squat as the foundation of their weight training.

Yes, yrrej, boxers don't bend their knees clear down into full-squat position. But half-squats are bad for your knees and can be very bad for your back. Stopping and starting the squatting motion with the thighs above parallel places tremendous strain on the ligaments of the knee, and when changing direction in the middle of the motion, one tends to cheat the weight and "bounce," which puts a load on the lower back and compresses the spine, which is extremely dangerous. You need to go to the bottom of the motion, rest for a moment until there is no further downward motion from the bar or your body, and then press back up. A similar, but opposite, motion to a dead-hang chin-up.

:soapbox: I hate to sound like a schmuck, but is there anyone else on this site -- hell, in this sport -- who actually knows and understands weightlifting as it pertains to athletic training? I feel like I'm writing the same posts every couple of weeks.

You all would seriously -- SERIOUSLY -- do very well to drop over to www.bodybuilding.com, check out the articles on fat loss and sports training, watch the videos of the lifts performed properly, and start to learn the science of athletic training. I'm not suggesting that you take up bodybuilding, but even the casual fratboy gym rat taking NOXplode and pumping his biceps is lightyears beyond most boxers I've ever met when it comes to the cutting edge of emerging athletic-performance science. EDIT: It's enlightening to talk to a guy who looks like he can't spell, but who can talk your ear off about nitrogen retention, hydration, glycogen depletion, ATP, vanadyl sulfate supplementation vs. gylcemic index mapping, and the finer points of protein intake. And yet at my gym, boxers still argue over the pros and cons of Gatorade.:nonono:

I do believe that a certified athletic trainer, with a background in exercise physiology, a finger on the pulse of athletic science, and a love of boxing, would make a killing in this game.

:thinking: Maybe I should switch careers.

Why are you acting like You're opinion is gospel. I have read many articles that are on both sides of this whole debate concerning boxing and weights. Some say do it, some say don't. I personally don't think weights are that important in a combat sport like boxing because strength isn't the most important aspect - skill is.

FACT - There is NO proof that you can use as evidence that fighters today are better because of weight training. Absolutely ZERO evidence.

Weights are definately good for athletes. But I think it's more of a personal thing whether you want to lift weights or do bodyweight exercises. An even better option is to mix both. No one ever said you have to chose one side, ya know?

Me, personally, I like doing bodyweight exercises more because it works the core better and you use more body awareness. Plus, I don't have weights.

But on the other hand, weights are easier to load up with and go heavy on.

Again, it's a matter of preference and goals.

For the original poster, for leg power, I would mix in both. One day, work max power, and the other day, work on explosiveness.

i had runner's knee
doing lunges with weights really helped

Why are you acting like You're opinion is gospel. I have read many articles that are on both sides of this whole debate concerning boxing and weights. Some say do it, some say don't. I personally don't think weights are that important in a combat sport like boxing because strength isn't the most important aspect - skill is.

FACT - There is NO proof that you can use as evidence that fighters today are better because of weight training. Absolutely ZERO evidence.

Every other sport in the world has benefitted from weight training and modern sports nutrition and supplementation. Why should boxing be any different? In an age where even sabre fencers lift weights and take creatine (I fenced competitively in college), boxing stands alone as the caveman throwback traditionalist sport -- jumping rope and eating red meat and pasta was enough in the 1920's but no longer. There is some kind of bull**** romantic traditionalist fantasy that boxing was at its peak back then, and that modern training is making it less great, now. Rocky IV didn't help.

Time marches on; stay where you want, Me, I'm taking advantage of everything that science has figured out -- I'm staying up to date on the latest supplementation science and strength training methodologies, and I will continue to apply them to boxing and I will continue to use every tool at my disposal to strike fear into the hearts of my opponents. But hey, do what you want.

I act like my opinion is gospel because it's working for me. I'm in the ring, I'm hitting the weights, and I'm kicking ass. And it particularly pisses me off when people who don't box, or don't lift weights, or neither (as is often the case on these boards), tell me what works and what doesn't. Try it and see if it works for you.

Every other sport in the world has benefitted from weight training and modern sports nutrition and supplementation. Why should boxing be any different? In an age where even sabre fencers lift weights and take creatine (I fenced competitively in college), boxing stands alone as the caveman throwback traditionalist sport -- jumping rope and eating red meat and pasta was enough in the 1920's but no longer. There is some kind of bull**** romantic traditionalist fantasy that boxing was at its peak back then, and that modern training is making it less great, now. Rocky IV didn't help.

Time marches on; stay where you want, Me, I'm taking advantage of everything that science has figured out -- I'm staying up to date on the latest supplementation science and strength training methodologies, and I will continue to apply them to boxing and I will continue to use every tool at my disposal to strike fear into the hearts of my opponents. But hey, do what you want.

I act like my opinion is gospel because it's working for me. I'm in the ring, I'm hitting the weights, and I'm kicking ass. And it particularly pisses me off when people who don't box, or don't lift weights, or neither (as is often the case on these boards), tell me what works and what doesn't. Try it and see if it works for you.

do u listen to gruntruck when u train?

Spread the truth brother!! :D

Evander Holyfield is a great example of a boxer who weight lifts. He went from his naturally framed 175-180 to 210-220.

That's over 40 lbs. of muscle. Yet he only got faster and stronger. Most people say that he's great mainly because of his heart, but I think his training is what got him there. I'm not saying he doesn't have heart, but his training was a bigger factor.

Notice I didn't say anything about the steroids factor, not that I'm saying that I think he did them. But even if he did use steroids, he still had to work his ass off. I could use all the steroids I wanted, I won't be near of what Holyfield is.