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rigid
01-06-2003, 10:03 AM
can someone answer a few questions for me?i try to read as much history on the wars as possible but the reasons behind them differ depending on where you got your info

what was the true start of ww2?
if hitler was against all races except aryan, how did he get the japanese to strike pearl harbor?if he did not, why did they do it?
how close did we come the world come to being under that control?

i have read in many books and articles that 2 miles off the coast of rhode island sound there is a nazi u-boat sunk to the bottom.when searched, this sub was found armed with missles and maps of new york and other cities/states.word is hitler had shot himself, his second in command had surrendered and the war was over but this sub was without communication and did not know it.it was still en route to bomb the continental us.it was finally sunk 2 miles off coast.the shell of the u-boat still rests there and people can scuba dive down to it and swim through the hull.
i just thought it was chilling knowing that the sub was that close to striking us.less the civil war, untill that time, the continental us had never been struck, but in the matter of another hour or so, new york would have been ****ed and the war certainly would have been started again

HockeyFighter
01-06-2003, 10:07 AM
Japan did there own thing and joined the Axiz after their attack. Japan was running out of resources anf the US had cut off it's oil supply to Japan. The Japanese needed land and resources and since they knew the US was a major player in the Pacfic and would respond to any agressive moves they made Japan tried to take out the US fleet to prevent attacks against them when they began their conquests.

rigid
01-06-2003, 10:21 AM
thanks fighter.you know there are many theories on the war.i don't get a lot of what was happening in germany under the dictatorship

Banned
01-06-2003, 12:38 PM
Hmmmm, why are you interested in the Nazis?

rigid
01-06-2003, 12:42 PM
i'm not.read the post.i wanted to know more about the war.i never knew why pearl harbor was attacked.depending on what you read and where it's from, there are different stories.
give it a break man

Bumble Bee Tuna
01-06-2003, 12:46 PM
The "true" start of World War 2 lies in many different things, you can't pin it to one thing. Alot of it can be traced back to World War 1 and Communism itself and the West trying to look for alternative to defend themselves against Communism, and what better way than the absolute antithesis of Communism (Fascism, Nazism )? Alot of it can also be blamed on the powers that be here in the West for letting things spiral to the point of no return.

As for Hitler and him being against all races. He wasn't against "all races". Hitler supported India and look at how dark they were, even Armenians, and he was Allies with Japan. He did go off on rants of survival of the fittest race etc etc. And by the way Aryan is not a race, it is a language group, it is a people. German is a complete language you see, it has words for everything such as Volk for people and Rasse for Race. In Germany all throughout the Nazi regime the term Volk was used. Volk means people, and all throughout the anti German propaganda and even until now Volk has been translated as meaning Race. There are many inconsistencies in the traditional version of things but taking a deeper look one is able to distinguish fact from fiction.

Cheers.

rigid
01-06-2003, 12:50 PM
thats what i'm trying to do.differentiate the facts from fiction.there are many inconstencies involving facts about the war.

www.historyplace.com
has some good info and timelines

HockeyFighter
01-06-2003, 01:02 PM
World War 2 is a big interest of mine. I like to think I am pretty right in what I say. I don't mean to brag (well maybe alittle) but I did have a 98% average in my highschool World at War history class.

rigid
01-06-2003, 01:09 PM
lets have it then fighter

Lei Tong
01-06-2003, 01:09 PM
I'm pretty sure the start was when none of the other world leaders invited Hitler over for crumpets and tea.

Or maybe he was upset over his penis size.

HockeyFighter
01-06-2003, 01:19 PM
World War 1 neever ended. It just took a 30 year break.

Kempo Chris
01-06-2003, 01:22 PM
didnt it start when some duke got assasinated?

HockeyFighter
01-06-2003, 01:33 PM
World War One started when Gabriel Princip of the Serbia terrorist group "The Black Hand" assassinated Ach Duke Ferdinad and his wife. Austria wanted to conduct an investigation that would require Serbia to give up certain freedoms. Serbia rejected this proposal. Austria turned to Germany who said they would support Austria if they attacked. Russia promised to support Serbia. So Austria invaded, Russia then mobalized which caused Germany to mobalize in responce. Germany invades Belgium violating their neutrality which causes Britian to get involved because they promised to protect Belgium's neutrality and France gets in there because they feel threatened. Italy figures they can grab some territory from Austria and attack them. Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire think Germany can help them regain some former strength in the Balkans and ally with Germany and Austria. Then the USA comes in at the end and pretends they won the war.

Kempo Chris
01-06-2003, 01:35 PM
thats it thank you always mix up things in WW 1 and 2

HockeyFighter
01-06-2003, 01:46 PM
World War 2 goes back to when Germany retakes the Rhineland and France sits back and does nothing. Hitler takes this as a sign that the allies are weak and gets more daring. He annexs Austria and lays clam to part of czechoslovakia. France, Germany and Britain have a meeting and agree to give Germany part of Czechosolvakia called sudetenland (sp) without even consulting Czechosolvakia. Hitler figures "**** this" and takes the whole freakin country. Germany and Russia sign a non-aggression pact in which they secretly agree to divide up Poland. Germany and Russia invade Poland. Six months later Germany invades Belgium again violating it's neutrality and Britain mobalizes. Italy does some minor ****, get their ass kick and have to run to Germany for help. France is overrunand Europe is dominated by the Nazi's for 4 years. Japan attacks Pearl Harbour which starts there plan of Pacific domination.