LuKahnLi
10-12-2004, 11:03 AM
Sounds like this one is a go. Will most likely be a late entry for fight of the year.
Who wins?
What result?
Who wins?
What result?
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View Full Version : Jose Luis Castillo VS Diego Corrales Dec. 4 LuKahnLi 10-12-2004, 11:03 AM Sounds like this one is a go. Will most likely be a late entry for fight of the year. Who wins? What result? LuKahnLi 10-12-2004, 11:05 AM As much as I like Castillo.....I have trouble picking against Corrales. Corrales by late stoppage. LuKahnLi 10-12-2004, 11:07 AM WTF? How did two threads get created? tracylee 10-12-2004, 11:08 AM As much as I like Castillo.....I have trouble picking against Corrales. Corrales by late stoppage. I like Castillo too, and think he's a good fighter, but Chico has so much power that a knockout wouldnt surprise me at all. I'd be rooting for Castillo though, no doubt about it!!! tracylee 10-12-2004, 11:09 AM WTF? How did two threads get created? I wondered that myself! :D Uh, do you want me to reply to the other one too?? :p LuKahnLi 10-12-2004, 11:13 AM No. Let the other fade away. Two threads is madness. As far as the fight goes.....this is gonna be a war, but Corrales has the harder shots. I think both fighters will hit the canvas. Eventually Castillo is just too worn out to continue or it is stopped on cuts. tracylee 10-12-2004, 11:22 AM No. Let the other fade away. Two threads is madness. As far as the fight goes.....this is gonna be a war, but Corrales has the harder shots. I think both fighters will hit the canvas. Eventually Castillo is just too worn out to continue or it is stopped on cuts. Damn, and I REALLY, REALLY wanted to go and repeat myself!! :D I agree about the fight; Castillo is a tough one and will be no picnic for Diego, but in the end Diego's power might get the best of him. I truly hope not cause I think Castillo is a much better technician in the ring (and possibly a better man outside the ring???) mic573 10-12-2004, 12:43 PM I think Castillo is too strong for Corrales and I also think his power is a bit underrated. Corrales power is great but Castillo also has a great chin. Corrales is always there to be hit where Castillo uses some good head movement to avoid shots. I also think Castillo is the overall better fighter. Castillo by decision after beating Corrales up. It may end up like Castillo/Lazcano. oldgringo 10-12-2004, 12:46 PM I say Castillo by TKO or decision. Corrales still hits me as just being too slow, Castillo's power is underrated, and Castillo's offensive output will be too much for Diego. Both fighter's may score KD's but I think Diego will get the shorter end of the stick at the end. .::|ULTIMATE|::. 10-12-2004, 12:50 PM This is a tough one. Corrales is young re-vitalized etc. Castillo is technically sound but is getting long in the tooth. I would choose Corrales if castillo wasnt such a rock. So its up in the air for me. Im gonna root for castillo though. tracylee 10-12-2004, 12:57 PM I say Castillo by TKO or decision. Corrales still hits me as just being too slow, Castillo's power is underrated, and Castillo's offensive output will be too much for Diego. Both fighter's may score KD's but I think Diego will get the shorter end of the stick at the end. I hope that is exactly how it goes too! If Castillo's chin can hold up, then I have no doubt he can outpoint Diego...he is the much better all around boxer of the two. ;) tino 10-12-2004, 01:05 PM i can see chico using his jab to keep castillo at bay enough to win a UD. but castillo is strong and has a granit chin ( he weighs 147 at fight time) , plus he hits really hard to the body. i think chico wins after taking some mean shots or even a KD . i doubt he can KO castillo even with his power. MetalVomit 10-12-2004, 02:09 PM I hope that is exactly how it goes too! If Castillo's chin can hold up, then I have no doubt he can outpoint Diego...he is the much better all around boxer of the two. ;) right as usual. plus, i was not impressed at all with Diego during the first 6 rounds of the Frietas fight, i was screaming at him to cut off the ring. yes, i was screaming at diego corrales through my tv. :o PRboxingfan 10-12-2004, 02:16 PM I see the fight going to Corrales. I think his boxing skills are underrated, as is his ability to take a punch. Yes, he was KD like there was no tomorrow by Floyd, who couldn't KD Castillo in either of their fights, but Chico was a shaddow of himself in that fight and has since come back with a vengence. I like Chico by KO in the late rounds, maybe 10. tracylee 10-12-2004, 02:31 PM right as usual. plus, i was not impressed at all with Diego during the first 6 rounds of the Frietas fight, i was screaming at him to cut off the ring. yes, i was screaming at diego corrales through my tv. :o I yell at them all the time with things like "is that what I told/taught you to do" and "come on...that blow wasnt THAT low; youre just using that free 5 min's" but my favorite is "what a piss poor job of officiating"...and "piece of **** in a bow-tie, do your job!!!!". I agree on the Freitas fight; there's a big difference in 'cutting off the ring' and 'following your opponet'! ;) scap 10-12-2004, 03:17 PM Castillo crushes Corrales, Chico's chin is still made of china, just because he took Freitas's wild, no leverage amueturish punches doesn't mean he can take JL Castillo's. Castillo in my mind is the most underrated fighter in the sport. LEts not forget that he beat Floy Mayweather in their first fight hands down and there are a lot of cult fans out there that believe MAyweather is your number 1 p4p. If this is true then why can't Castillo crack anybody top 10, hell he is out of most people's top 15. Castillo in an ugly brawl that may end chicos career NiGe2011 10-12-2004, 03:34 PM Castillo is a very good fighter- but he definitally has his limitations, and frankly- Chico is just a class above. Corrales chin is very underrated- it was before the Freitas fight and it is after. Castillo has yet to fight anybody with nearly the power of Diego (including Mayweather) and would not be able to stand up to it for 12 rounds- he is just to easy to hit! Diego by a KO inside 8... tracylee 10-12-2004, 03:39 PM Castillo is a very good fighter- but he definitally has his limitations, and frankly- Chico is just a class above. Corrales chin is very underrated- it was before the Freitas fight and it is after. Castillo has yet to fight anybody with nearly the power of Diego (including Mayweather) and would not be able to stand up to it for 12 rounds- he is just to easy to hit! Diego by a KO inside 8... I was waiting on you...what took you so long?? :D scap 10-12-2004, 03:46 PM Corrales is a class above Castillo?? Absolutely no ****ing way, did you watch Corrales and Mayweather fight?? I know what your gonna say, poor Corrales beat the **** out his wife and he was disctracted, although when preparing for the fight he seemed as determined as I have ever seen him to beat any one fighter. Corrlaes was so outclassed by Mayweather that... and I am being serious here he probably could have been beaten by a FM with only one hand. The Freitas fight was going the same way but Freitas could not keep up the running for 12 full. Castillo would have ripped Freitas apart much quicker! Again Remember Castillo fought Floyd twice and beat him once and definately did not embarrass himself in the second fight...ask Floyd Mayweather who he'd rather face! The only guy in that has ever been outclasssed is Corrales so how is he a class above, that is absolutely crazy. QueenCity 10-12-2004, 04:18 PM This is going to be one heck of a fight. Two guys I consider among to top pound for pound best fighters. In the end I think it will come down to who has the best chin with Castillos hard nosed style and Deigo great boxing ability. It's hard to say, but i'll go with Chico by split decision. I thank Showtime for not making this Pay-per-veiw, HBO would probabily try and weisel their way into making it one. NiGe2011 10-12-2004, 04:18 PM Corrales is a class above Castillo?? Absolutely no ****ing way, did you watch Corrales and Mayweather fight?? I know what your gonna say, poor Corrales beat the **** out his wife and he was disctracted, although when preparing for the fight he seemed as determined as I have ever seen him to beat any one fighter. Corrlaes was so outclassed by Mayweather that... and I am being serious here he probably could have been beaten by a FM with only one hand. The Freitas fight was going the same way but Freitas could not keep up the running for 12 full. Castillo would have ripped Freitas apart much quicker! Again Remember Castillo fought Floyd twice and beat him once and definately did not embarrass himself in the second fight...ask Floyd Mayweather who he'd rather face! The only guy in that has ever been outclasssed is Corrales so how is he a class above, that is absolutely crazy. While what you say about Corrales and Mayweather is true you are forgeting one very important thing- and that is that styles make fights. And at that point in Diego's career he could not handle guys who moved around at all- and to some degree he still struggles with those types of fighters today. That being said, he has improved much in that area and his victories both over Freitas and over Casamayor in the second fight show that he has improved. Even if it were the case that Diego had not improved in this regard- Castillo is not really that type of fighter and Diego should be the favorite anyway! The only real loss of Diego's career is against Mayweather (I don't count Casamayor because at the time of the stoppage Diego was the fighter who was getting the better of it). Castillo meanwhile has been beaten by Mayweather twice, and lost to the likes of unheralded Mexicans such as Cesar Soto and Julio Alveraz. When you compair the level of competition of the two it is not even close- Corrales has big wins over Casamayor, Freitas, Gainer, Manfredy and took the IBF strap off of a tough Roberto Garcia. All of which he won in impressive fashion! Aside from his lone victory off of the overrated and inexperienced Juan Lazcano, Castillo's only wins are a couple of tough bouts with the less then amazing Stevie Johnston (one of which was actually a draw). The bottom line is that Castillo is a little overrated- his only big win in the past four years was Lazcano! Corrales is stonger, longer, has faced the better competition, and is really stringing big wins together right now. Not only is Castillo not going to win this fight- but it is not even going to be close. mic573 10-12-2004, 04:38 PM Corrales was not getting the better of Casamayor in the first fight. He shook him a few times and knocked him down but he was definitely not winnning that fight. Corrales was also shook and knocked down a couple times in that fight also. He showed improvement in the second fight but I felt he surprised Casamayor more in the first half but did not dominate him. I thought Casamayor pulled out a close win in the second fight. That improvement he showed in the that fight didn't show up in the Frietas fight. It wasn't until Frietas started to really slow down that he was able to really touch him even though I think it was a closer fight before Frietas started losing steam. He hardly used his jab and I think with Castillo he will see the fight coming to him and he will abandon the jab and fight the way he always does. Castillo will take some good shots but his overall output will wear Corrales down to a unanimous decision. abdiel2k3 10-12-2004, 04:43 PM i see this fight playing out a bit like corrales frietas dieogo landing shots but not really hurtin Castillo hes been stopped before and i think that Castillo is goin to prove to strong and knowledgable for Corrales i know Corrales is big for the division too but Castillo walks into the ring at near middle Castillo by KO scap 10-12-2004, 05:56 PM While what you say about Corrales and Mayweather is true you are forgeting one very important thing- and that is that styles make fights. And at that point in Diego's career he could not handle guys who moved around at all- and to some degree he still struggles with those types of fighters today. That being said, he has improved much in that area and his victories both over Freitas and over Casamayor in the second fight show that he has improved. Even if it were the case that Diego had not improved in this regard- Castillo is not really that type of fighter and Diego should be the favorite anyway! The only real loss of Diego's career is against Mayweather (I don't count Casamayor because at the time of the stoppage Diego was the fighter who was getting the better of it). Castillo meanwhile has been beaten by Mayweather twice, and lost to the likes of unheralded Mexicans such as Cesar Soto and Julio Alveraz. When you compair the level of competition of the two it is not even close- Corrales has big wins over Casamayor, Freitas, Gainer, Manfredy and took the IBF strap off of a tough Roberto Garcia. All of which he won in impressive fashion! Aside from his lone victory off of the overrated and inexperienced Juan Lazcano, Castillo's only wins are a couple of tough bouts with the less then amazing Stevie Johnston (one of which was actually a draw). The bottom line is that Castillo is a little overrated- his only big win in the past four years was Lazcano! Corrales is stonger, longer, has faced the better competition, and is really stringing big wins together right now. Not only is Castillo not going to win this fight- but it is not even going to be close. I am not forgetting that styles make fights, I completely understand that. I responded to somone who said that Corrales was in a different class, I forget who it was but if it was you then shame on you. Castillo proved he can do anything, band like he did against Bezan and Lazcano or attack a slickster like he did against Jonston or Floyd. How can you say that Corrales has improved with movers sinse the Mayweather fight? You disregard the first casamayor fight, cmon I hate Joel but he was still winning that fight and not in half the trouble that you think he was in. He looked like the same Corrales in the fight with Feitas, he was inactive and cluless for most of the first half of the fight, Freitas just sucks thats all. The 2nd casamyaor fight was as close as it gets, it could have gone either way, its too bad Joel Casamayor is a ***** who doesn't like to fight the first six rounds of just about every fight he is in, had he have done this he would have easily won the decision, oh who got planted on their ass in that fight for the millionth time? Oh and you say Lazcano is the only win Castillo has, what about Floyd Mayweather, you would like to paint a rosy pitcure in some of Chico's fights but with Castillo there is no need to spin, he beat alot of peoples #1 p4per, he flat out beat Floyd, it wasn't even that close, compare that to the loss you don't count against Casamayor, cmon. Granted Corrales has a nice litte resume but we are talking about the strongest toughest 135 pounder in the world, Diego has never faced a real lightweight before. The debate is great, all I was saying in my first post was that there is no way Corrales is in a different class than Castillo, if anything the Mayeather fights with both guys cement that fact. Have a great day! Sir_Jose 10-12-2004, 06:06 PM These are two of my favorites and make no mistake about it BOTH are World Class fighters, but its a bad style match up for Castillo. The way to beat Corrales is to get on youe toes and move on him not to come right at him and try to slug. Corrales blows sluggers out of the water. I think Corrales stops him late after a tee'ing off on Castillo's head for a few rounds. tracylee 10-12-2004, 06:08 PM Either way it should be a great fight with lot's of excitement!! :D Sir_Jose 10-12-2004, 06:14 PM Either way it should be a great fight with lot's of excitement!! :D I agree 100% this is not a fight any boxing fan should miss mic573 10-12-2004, 06:31 PM These are two of my favorites and make no mistake about it BOTH are World Class fighters, but its a bad style match up for Castillo. The way to beat Corrales is to get on youe toes and move on him not to come right at him and try to slug. Corrales blows sluggers out of the water. I think Corrales stops him late after a tee'ing off on Castillo's head for a few rounds. Corrales is the type of fight Castillo wants also. I think this is good match up for both fighters. It is true Corrales has yet to face a true lightweight much less a junior middleweight who shrinks down to lightweight. Castillo will definitely be the stronger fighter and when it gets tough he will push Corrales back and Corrales can't fight going backwards. Somebody said Chico will hit Corrales easy but it will work both ways. MetalVomit 10-12-2004, 08:14 PM Either way it should be a great fight with lot's of excitement!! :D both are two of my favorite fighters, finally a fight where i wont have to worry about my fighter getting beat, i can just sit back, and get so hammered that i may not be able to remember the fight! :D Yarmez 10-12-2004, 08:18 PM I like castillo, his awsome chin, straight forward latino style, he is a very good fighter, who shook the **** out of mayweather, and chico was dominated by mayweather, it could be interesting. but Chico has been on such a high lately adn he's been whooping ass. And Castillo did beat lazcano, but he wasn't brilliant in that fight. I go Chico by Ud or SD. MetalVomit 10-12-2004, 08:23 PM I like castillo, his awsome chin, straight forward latino style, he is a very good fighter, who shook the **** out of mayweather, and chico was dominated by mayweather, it could be interesting. but Chico has been on such a high lately adn he's been whooping ass. And Castillo did beat lazcano, but he wasn't brilliant in that fight. I go Chico by Ud or SD. not brilliant, but he put a severe beating on Lazcano, who is no slouch himself. Hurlex 10-12-2004, 08:38 PM i hope castillo ko the hell out of corrales and it very possible castillo just cant let the fight go into late rounds and let diego get into the fight... so my pick...i say castillo can do it and early... ko 3-5round tracylee 10-13-2004, 10:14 AM both are two of my favorite fighters, finally a fight where i wont have to worry about my fighter getting beat, i can just sit back, and get so hammered that i may not be able to remember the fight! :D Man if you cant remember it you cant properly debate it after it's over ;) techn9ne 10-13-2004, 10:18 AM i like chico in this one LuKahnLi 10-13-2004, 10:19 AM Unfortunately it sounds like this ain't happening. tracylee 10-13-2004, 10:34 AM Unfortunately it sounds like this ain't happening. Oh no..what happened? I havent heard anything about it yet! LuKahnLi 10-13-2004, 10:44 AM It fell through....they are talking about Castillo-Casamayor now. tracylee 10-13-2004, 10:52 AM It fell through....they are talking about Castillo-Casamayor now. Typical...fortunately I am a big Casamayor fan! :D So I guess that will do (for me anyway) LuKahnLi 10-13-2004, 10:53 AM That may be bad for you then.....I don't see how Casamayor will win. LuKahnLi 10-13-2004, 10:53 AM Gotta get to class. Chat w/ ya'll later. tracylee 10-13-2004, 10:56 AM Gotta get to class. Chat w/ ya'll later. Later babe! Btw, I like both of the enough that I wont be heartbroken if Castillo did beat him. ;) Tha Greatest 10-13-2004, 02:25 PM Corrals will **** him up strictly cuz his from sacramento :cool: Swifty 12-02-2004, 01:47 AM Corrales is too slow and Floyd exposed him. I reckon he'll get exposed again. Hurlex 12-02-2004, 02:39 AM corrales's chin will let him down...this fight will happen after castillo ko's casa Hudson_Hawk 12-02-2004, 03:24 AM castillo by U.D. . . Corrales is younger and stronger so if it's by K.O. that's Corrales. |