These can be unbiased opinions, speculations, rumours, truths, etc. My list plays out like this:
Lil' Wayne (Gillie Da Kid)
Dre (Who hasn't ghostwritten for him? Em, Jay, Royce Da 5'9'')
Foxy Brown (Same as above)
Eazy E (Cube, D.O.C., etc)
N.O.R.E. (Listen to War Report then one of his albums and you can tell Tragedy wrote half his ****)
Puff Daddy aka Diddy
Memphis Bleek (His long lost brother Jay-Z wrote most of his ****)
Yung Joc (written by many pre schoolers and elementary students)
Mike Jones (ghostwritten by someone with tourrets)
Wu-Tang (I can't remember where I heard it but I heard they used to swap verses depending on style)

I dont think aybody ghostwrites for Weezy anymore. I could be wrong...

I only think Jay wrote his verses on Reasonable Doubt. And Bow Wow doesn't write **** either. Will Smith Nas wrote some for him.

I dont think aybody ghostwrites for Weezy anymore. I could be wrong...
I was thinking that too. Because I thought he had to write this latest album plus Birdman's lyrics.

Yung Joc (written by many pre schoolers and elementary students)
Mike Jones (ghostwritten by someone with tourrets)



LMAO:banana:

Kool G Rap writes Ma Barker's rhymes and probably everyone else's in the 5 Family Click

Ma barker is his wife isnt she.

Ma barker is his wife isnt she.

His wife, my slut.

Ice-T wrote Mr. T's raps for Be Somebody or Be Somebody's Fool

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How hilarious is that Hasselhoff **** going to be? Extremely, that's my prediction.

who cares. if they did or not. theres alot of behind the scenes **** that ppl keep hush hush for us to even know

who cares. if they did or not. theres alot of behind the scenes **** that ppl keep hush hush for us to even know

Music is an art, not just a product to be sold. How can a rapper call themself an artist, if they don't create their own product?

Music is an art, not just a product to be sold. How can a rapper call themself an artist, if they don't create their own product?
Agreed. It's not the same as someone who is vocally gifted singing someone else's song. It doesn't take much more than a sense of rhythm and ability to memorize to rap someone else's lyrics.

Agreed. It's not the same as someone who is vocally gifted singing someone else's song. It doesn't take much more than a sense of rhythm and ability to memorize to rap someone else's lyrics.
In a Dr.Dre's case he creates a part of music also when he produces the track but I agree for the most part.

In a Dr.Dre's case he creates a part of music also when he produces the track but I agree for the most part.
If your only involvement in the song is reciting someone else's words with a spoken voice, you're but a puppet...

Music is an art, not just a product to be sold. How can a rapper call themself an artist, if they don't create their own product?

i guess they cant. but most of this **** is just accusation. u dont know if its the truth unless the actual rapper says it. ppl r jealous and can say alot of things just to get spot light or just to be a hater.thats like me saying i write for u.does it have to be true cause i said it? no.

i guess they cant. but most of this **** is just accusation. u dont know if its the truth unless the actual rapper says it. ppl r jealous and can say alot of things just to get spot light or just to be a hater.thats like me saying i write for u.does it have to be true cause i said it? no.

I'm talking about people that I know that have ghostwriters:dre, diddy, etc.

The entire industry.....every artist has had a ghoster before.."quote" that..

Music is an art, not just a product to be sold. How can a rapper call themself an artist, if they don't create their own product?
If videos or whatnot are made then the ARTIST has to perform...The ARTIST still has to spit the verse...the ARTIST...you do music poetry etc the you are an ARTIST..

If videos or whatnot are made then the ARTIST has to perform...The ARTIST still has to spit the verse...the ARTIST...you do music poetry etc the you are an ARTIST..
"Spitting" doesn't require the same talent that singing, writing, or producing does - if they're not your own lyrics.

You could train the Micro Machines Guy to recite a Chamillionaire song...

The entire industry.....every artist has had a ghoster before.."quote" that..

Consider it quoted. So you're saying that EVERY hip hop artist in HISTORY has had a ghostwriter? That's a very laughable accusation.

Again, why wouldnt this obscene amount of ghostwriters just be artists themselves, if there's so many of them?

The bottom line is there is always or most of the time some other influence for creating a song. Sometimes someone in the studio will throw in a word or two and get credit for partial writing. But, in Dre's case you can't replace that voice it's just a legendary voice.

Consider it quoted. So you're saying that EVERY hip hop artist in HISTORY has had a ghostwriter? That's a very laughable accusation.

Again, why wouldnt this obscene amount of ghostwriters just be artists themselves, if there's so many of them?
You tell me why Ghandz....I truly believe every artist has wanted to switch **** up just a little but their actual didnt cut it so they find someone that can do it..whether it be rapping fast slow or whatever...It may seem laughable but I bet the farm it is true...But what artist would tell you that?? NONE-ZERO..yea and that includes the most hip hoppady artist..

"Spitting" doesn't require the same talent that singing, writing, or producing does - if they're not your own lyrics.

You could train the Micro Machines Guy to recite a Chamillionaire song...
yes you can but he would be performing it....bottomline...performing something can be classified as doing something artistic aka being a artist...anyway you want to write..

You tell me why Ghandz....I truly believe every artist has wanted to switch **** up just a little but their actual didnt cut it so they find someone that can do it..whether it be rapping fast slow or whatever...It may seem laughable but I bet the farm it is true...But what artist would tell you that?? NONE-ZERO..yea and that includes the most hip hoppady artist..

Agree to disagree.

yes you can but he would be performing it....bottomline...performing something can be classified as doing something artistic aka being a artist...anyway you want to write..
It's a lesser artist, then, than someone else who puts actual thought into the work, rather than just following instructions...

It's a lesser artist, then, than someone else who puts actual thought into the work, rather than just following instructions...
some artist have good a delivery..while tjhe ghoster may not..."damn I need a rough voice for this ****...see whats up with DMX"...I admit it is cheating but thats the nature of the game...some artist are simply great performs rather that writers...video presense and all the above..

some artist have good a delivery..while tjhe ghoster may not..."damn I need a rough voice for this ****...see whats up with DMX"...I admit it is cheating but thats the nature of the game...some artist are simply great performs rather that writers...video presense and all the above..
I understand the performance part of selling the musical act. Jermaine Dupri, for example, most likely wrote the first Da Brat albums and Kris Kross and Bow Wow discs, because they rap EXACTLY LIKE HE DOES, but Dupri can't be singing "I Missed the Bus" himself...

I still struggle with the whole "artist" terminology, though, because I think it's cheapened when someone is just reciting. Same with Jay Leno telling jokes his team wrote. Who's the comedian - him or his writers?

I'm talking about people that I know that have ghostwriters:dre, diddy, etc.

did they admit themselves? if not its just a rumor/accusation. correct?

did they admit themselves? if not its just a rumor/accusation. correct?

Dre and Diddy, if have not admitted it, should have by now. When Diddy's last album was about to come out, there was an interview with Pharoahe Monch, who wrote one of the songs for Diddy. He admitted it, and Diddy raps EXACTLY like Monch on the song. It's also no rumor that Dre has had numerous ghostwriters. Those 2 for sure are not rumors, or accusations.

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/2006/10/diddy_buys_hims_1.php

"Case in point: When the Billboard charts come out next week, the number-one album in the country is going to come from a guy who isn't so much an artist as a sponsor. I absolutely hated Diddy for years and years, and that's mostly because I worked at a summer camp in 1997 and thus had to hear "I'll Be Missing You" and "Mo Money Mo Problems" on repeat-loop for three months straight. I spent years laboring under the unfortunate idea that someone who couldn't really rap and who admitted to paying other people for his lyrics couldn't possibly make any music that meant anything at all. Ghostwriting has always been around in rap, but it's been more a dirty secret of the industry; people would brag about writing other people's lyrics, but no one would ever admit to buying someone else's words. But Diddy actually sort of bragged about it, and other rappers' fingerprints are all over Press Play. The biggest and weirdest example is "The Future," which Pharoahe Monch wrote. There's not a single person in rap history who sounds remotely like that guy, and so "The Future" basically works as a pretty good Monch impersonation, Diddy doing Monch's scattered clumps of syllables and nasal preacher cadence almost exactly like Monch does them. It's hard to say why Diddy hired Monch; the song is way too weird and off-beat to ever be a hit, and it's not like it'll get Diddy the critical love or the street credibility that he has never had and never will have. So we have to we have to assume that Diddy hired Monch to write the song just because he likes Monch and wants to rap like him. And in the end, it doesn't even matter why Diddy hired Monch. Pharoahe Monch hasn't released an album in something like seven years, and "The Future" is one of the only Monch songs that's been released this year. And so next week, the number-one album in the country is going to have a Pharoahe Monch song on it, something that would've been virtually unthinkable a few years ago. "The Future" might be rapped by Diddy, but it's not Diddy's song. Diddy's just the guy whose ideas and financial backing gave the song life. I don't have a list of producer credits in front of me, but I'm pretty sure Diddy outsourced all the beats as well. And that makes Press Play basically a commissioned work from start to finish. Diddy admits as much on the album: "We interrupt this hot mother****ing album that y'all are presently listening to to hear a few words from our generous sponsor.""

Dre and Diddy, if have not admitted it, should have by now. When Diddy's last album was about to come out, there was an interview with Pharoahe Monch, who wrote one of the songs for Diddy. He admitted it, and Diddy raps EXACTLY like Monch on the song. It's also no rumor that Dre has had numerous ghostwriters. Those 2 for sure are not rumors, or accusations.

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/2006/10/diddy_buys_hims_1.php

"Case in point: When the Billboard charts come out next week, the number-one album in the country is going to come from a guy who isn't so much an artist as a sponsor. I absolutely hated Diddy for years and years, and that's mostly because I worked at a summer camp in 1997 and thus had to hear "I'll Be Missing You" and "Mo Money Mo Problems" on repeat-loop for three months straight. I spent years laboring under the unfortunate idea that someone who couldn't really rap and who admitted to paying other people for his lyrics couldn't possibly make any music that meant anything at all. Ghostwriting has always been around in rap, but it's been more a dirty secret of the industry; people would brag about writing other people's lyrics, but no one would ever admit to buying someone else's words. But Diddy actually sort of bragged about it, and other rappers' fingerprints are all over Press Play. The biggest and weirdest example is "The Future," which Pharoahe Monch wrote. There's not a single person in rap history who sounds remotely like that guy, and so "The Future" basically works as a pretty good Monch impersonation, Diddy doing Monch's scattered clumps of syllables and nasal preacher cadence almost exactly like Monch does them. It's hard to say why Diddy hired Monch; the song is way too weird and off-beat to ever be a hit, and it's not like it'll get Diddy the critical love or the street credibility that he has never had and never will have. So we have to we have to assume that Diddy hired Monch to write the song just because he likes Monch and wants to rap like him. And in the end, it doesn't even matter why Diddy hired Monch. Pharoahe Monch hasn't released an album in something like seven years, and "The Future" is one of the only Monch songs that's been released this year. And so next week, the number-one album in the country is going to have a Pharoahe Monch song on it, something that would've been virtually unthinkable a few years ago. "The Future" might be rapped by Diddy, but it's not Diddy's song. Diddy's just the guy whose ideas and financial backing gave the song life. I don't have a list of producer credits in front of me, but I'm pretty sure Diddy outsourced all the beats as well. And that makes Press Play basically a commissioned work from start to finish. Diddy admits as much on the album: "We interrupt this hot mother****ing album that y'all are presently listening to to hear a few words from our generous sponsor.""

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=9721

"while a strong producer in his own right, Dre always seems to rely on others to push his music up to a certain level. With his debut solo album, the Chronic, MF Grimm's ghostwriting was an integral part in pushing the album to the top of the charts, making it the champion gangsta rap album of the 90s. Dr. Dre is a self-concious MC, one who despite his outstanding producing ability, seems uncertain of his rapping ability; and it's not to say he can't rap, it's just his writing and rhyming aren't in the same league as his work behind the scenes.
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http://www.last.fm/music/Royce+da+5'9%22/+wiki

"In 1999 Royce contributed as a ghostwriter for Dr. Dre's album, 2001. He ghostwrote several tracks, including "The Message" and the original version of "Xxplosive"—titled "Way I Be Pimpin", which saw Dr. Dre rapping about pimping and getting money and Royce on the hook. But after being under Dre's wing for only a short time, his manager reportedly let slip to a reporter about the ghostwriting. When Royce refused to fire the man, who was a friend of his, his ties with Dre were severed, and "Xxplosive" was retouched to its current album version."