So this is my second time sparring since a 9 month layoff...Trainer throws me in there with this cat whos bout 230, real big and muscular but REAL ****in wild. He jumps in and throws a 10 wild punch combination then jumps out...jumps back and and does the same thing over and over. Real hyper and free swinging...

So naturally, I'm thinking that I gotta out think this ****er...Jab him, let him punch himself out, counter, keep my hands high etc. He would come in and throw a 10 punch combo, and maybe catch me with one of them (I can't block all them ****s). I would jab, try and move and control the pace...and hed jump in and do the same thing. I kept moving, kept the him looking at my right hand, went to his body...Landed some jabs, caught him with some rights. Tried to stay controlled and cool BUT...

All in all, the kid would have won the fight if this was a real amateur bout. He got off more shots cuz he threw so god damn many.

I mean, when u watch Oscar or Tito pick apart someone like Mayorga, they make it look alot easier than it really is. I also am still not confident in my stamina and was worried about winding up gassed out so I didn't throw as much as I would have liked to. Whenever I tried to get off some shots here he comes with another nutty wild combination so I have to protect myself.

Then here comes my trainer criticizing me, but fa real what was I to do?

How do yall deal with these kind of fighters? In the 4 years I have been boxing, this kid was THE most wild and hyper I have ever faced. I'm usually the more agressive fighter...but now Im ****in sulking over a spar where I feel that I feel I could have done much better. But at the time I feel like I was doing the right thing. God damn the ego. How would you guys deal with a big strong dude who fights like Ricardo Mayorga x 10????

im going to start bobbing and weaving coming in and keeping my hands up as i do it and counter his shots. u should do the same

Win the psychological battle. I deal with a real live wire of a kid every single week in sparring. He's ok until he gets hit and then he starts crumbling psychologically.

Counter him to the point where his brain associates putting his hands out in front of him, with missing and eating bombs. He'll soon calm the **** down.

Win the psychological battle. I deal with a real live wire of a kid every single week in sparring. He's ok until he gets hit and then he starts crumbling psychologically.

Counter him to the point where his brain associates putting his hands out in front of him, with missing and eating bombs. He'll soon calm the **** down.

No doubt...thats what i was trying to but the ring rust wasn't really kind to me. ****!

And then, as soon as dude gets tired from punching himself out, at the end of that round he comes up to me and says "thanks for the work" and leaves the ring. What the hell....

No doubt...thats what i was trying to but the ring rust wasn't really kind to me. ****!

And then, as soon as dude gets tired from punching himself out, at the end of that round he comes up to me and says "thanks for the work" and leaves the ring. What the hell....

Just start punching wildly and regard defense-thats what desperate measures call for. If your not fast enough to dodge him then you better beat him at his own game(easy for me to say, im 135).

Just start punching wildly and regard defense-thats what desperate measures call for. If your not fast enough to dodge him then you better beat him at his own game(easy for me to say, im 135).

Ya know whats crazy...is that i usually fight that way, straight brawling. But the last time I sparred I was too wild and rugged and had an epiphany of sorts...Decided I was done with that ****. I promised that I was gonna fight smarter, not throw 10 punches to land 1, instead use smarts to throw 3 punches and land 2. Be relaxed, control a fight with the jab, use good defense. All in all just to practice the sweet science, not do street fighting in the ring. Wanted to focus more on being a skilled tactician.

Then when I do that I wished I brawled. And when I brawl I wish I boxed more.

****in catch 22. Thats boxing for ya.

Id just put my guard up real high, walk in expecting to take some body shots, walk into him, then push him off with your guard when you get real close then pop a jab and follow with a hard hook.

The point is that whilst you are charging with your guard up, he is punching, after taking some punshiment you will expect him to take a breather, thats when you throw his head off by poping a quick jab and throwing a left hook or something.

But then you have to be confident in your power...

With guys like that you either gotta show that you can take a beating so they will just have to relax not to gas, or show them your strength, and then respect will make them change their game plan and box a more calm fight.

But I would say thats how I always fought/fight.

Just being smart, let them gas a bit and throw a few real hard effective punches or just **** their face up with hard jabs.

Id just put my guard up real high, walk in expecting to take some body shots, walk into him, then push him off with your guard when you get real close then pop a jab and follow with a hard hook.

The point is that whilst you are charging with your guard up, he is punching, after taking some punshiment you will expect him to take a breather, thats when you throw his head off by poping a quick jab and throwing a left hook or something.

But then you have to be confident in your power...

With guys like that you either gotta show that you can take a beating so they will just have to relax not to gas, or show them your strength, and then respect will make them change their game plan and box a more calm fight.

But I would say thats how I always fought/fight.

Just being smart, let them gas a bit and throw a few real hard effective punches or just **** their face up with hard jabs.

No doubt...good words man.

Ive kinda tired of my old style of unintelligent brawling. Im still coping with the fact that I didnt all out brawl with somebody, I need to stay focused on what this sport really is all about. Once I work off the rust and continue to practice technique then I'm sure I will be more satisfied with my new approach.

It's good to learn the sport inside and out, but nothing's more satisfying than to go toe to toe with someone, trade your best shots, and come out ahead. You just feel like the superior animal, like nature loves you more.

A swarmy basterd huh? lol
I'll give you some insight. His style is the best to defeat a half assed "boxer" And its a mind game more than anything. He will get you out of your game plan, expose you and crush you. Thats the theory anyway. Do not abandon the jab and form of a boxer. He will get inside this is when you have to punch faster and tighter. "no wide shots". Move your head and counter with tight fast punches and get the hell out of there let him chase you all night or day. with the same tactics. Either you are going to catch him coming in or he'll run out of gas. Remeber this to its chess not checkers. Set him up watch what he is doing close enough and you can control the chaos. You can set him up to come in a certain way that you know you can drop the bomb on him. From what I read he seems somewhat repetitive so it should be easy. Some guys all you have to do is make a move once or twice and then feint that move and ther are wide open. You were right by having to out think him Do it.

A swarmy basterd huh? lol
I'll give you some insight. His style is the best to defeat a half assed "boxer" And its a mind game more than anything. He will get you out of your game plan, expose you and crush you. Thats the theory anyway. Do not abandon the jab and form of a boxer. He will get inside this is when you have to punch faster and tighter. "no wide shots". Move your head and counter with tight fast punches and get the hell out of there let him chase you all night or day. with the same tactics. Either you are going to catch him coming in or he'll run out of gas. Remeber this to its chess not checkers. Set him up watch what he is doing close enough and you can control the chaos. You can set him up to come in a certain way that you know you can drop the bomb on him. From what I read he seems somewhat repetitive so it should be easy. Some guys all you have to do is make a move once or twice and then feint that move and ther are wide open. You were right by having to out think him Do it.

No doubt...thanks for the words. You seem to know exactly the kind of guy I'm talking about.

I am by all means a slugger but for this guy it was just too tempting to avoid slugging with him because he is exactly the type of guy that can be grossly outboxed or outsmarted. I said to myself that now was the time to be the skilled one...I think the one thing I did was I moved backwards instead of stepping to the side when he came in. And I could have headed him off with the jab or double jab whenever he tried to make a move. I came in to the spar thinking that all I got to do is keep touching him with the jab and then surprise him with something hard.

First round I controlled, second round I was more defensive trying to feel him out and let him punch himself out. He was straight wiling out. But all in all my tactic seemed to start paying off towards the end of the 3rd round and thats when the mother****er came up to me and said "thanks for the work" lol. I was like, wuh..

On that note, anyone have a trainer that can find a way to put you down no matter WHAT you ****in do? Been with him for 4 years and at the end of every spar or match its always negative critique, sometimes overdoing it. **** Im 3-0 in comps and have never been dominated in a spar yet I get nothing but an earful every time. Sure knows how to **** with your ego.

Here is something that is going to help you in counter punching:
http://www.how-to-box.com/boxing/counterpunching


for defense:
http://www.how-to-box.com/boxing/boxing_defense

So this is my second time sparring since a 9 month layoff...Trainer throws me in there with this cat whos bout 230, real big and muscular but REAL ****in wild. He jumps in and throws a 10 wild punch combination then jumps out...jumps back and and does the same thing over and over. Real hyper and free swinging...

So naturally, I'm thinking that I gotta out think this ****er...Jab him, let him punch himself out, counter, keep my hands high etc. He would come in and throw a 10 punch combo, and maybe catch me with one of them (I can't block all them ****s). I would jab, try and move and control the pace...and hed jump in and do the same thing. I kept moving, kept the him looking at my right hand, went to his body...Landed some jabs, caught him with some rights. Tried to stay controlled and cool BUT...

All in all, the kid would have won the fight if this was a real amateur bout. He got off more shots cuz he threw so god damn many.

I mean, when u watch Oscar or Tito pick apart someone like Mayorga, they make it look alot easier than it really is. I also am still not confident in my stamina and was worried about winding up gassed out so I didn't throw as much as I would have liked to. Whenever I tried to get off some shots here he comes with another nutty wild combination so I have to protect myself.

Then here comes my trainer criticizing me, but fa real what was I to do?

How do yall deal with these kind of fighters? In the 4 years I have been boxing, this kid was THE most wild and hyper I have ever faced. I'm usually the more agressive fighter...but now Im ****in sulking over a spar where I feel that I feel I could have done much better. But at the time I feel like I was doing the right thing. God damn the ego. How would you guys deal with a big strong dude who fights like Ricardo Mayorga x 10????

Stick that jab, dig his body with the right. Just let the right go and while its in its path look for something coming back. The rest will just happen but take his body, his breathe and his heart. Those guys are actually most times more head strong then body strong. Its about endurance with those guys, they generally will not have it. Take that body and take it often. When on the outside with him get low and sneak a jab to his body, interupt his breathing. Soon it will all add up to him no longer being fast, then its your game......................Rockin':boxing:

Here is something that is going to help you in counter punching:
http://www.how-to-box.com/boxing/counterpunching


for defense:
http://www.how-to-box.com/boxing/boxing_defense

Actually a very insightful link, perfectly relevant to what I'm talking about. Thanks.

Actually a very insightful link, perfectly relevant to what I'm talking about. Thanks.

thanks man anything to help :D

i know exactly what you mean dude. at my gym, there's this autistic kid who fights exactly like that. no defense, just throws a ****load of punches at you, and he has a lot of power. (his heavy bag routine is putting on these old ass marciano-looking gloves and pummeling the bag).

maybe your opponent is smarter, but try using a lot of lateral movement. i found that when he would charge at me swinging, i could stand my ground, throw a good 1-2 (i like a nice hook to the body to end), bob down to the outside and just step out of range. all the spinning around can keep a guy like that off balance and make him easier to counter. problem here is, while he wont have the chance to throw as many punches, he'll have a lot more gas in the tank, and he'll be on you from bell to bell. but i found it a good way to deal with him