whats your opinion

whats your opinion

I think he would.

I think Roy would win if it came to a decsion. McClellan didn't strike me as the type that would've let Jones' speed baffle him like so many of Jones' other opponents. McClellan would be on him with hopes of knocking him thru the ropes and for that reason Jones' probably would use his skills to box for 12 rounds.

He lost to him in the amatueres but i think he would get the win in the pro's. Gerald had more than a punchers chance tho!

i think the question should be would roy jones jr have beaten gerald mcclellan

McClellan had a punchers chance in any fight he was in, but I think Roy Jones Jr would be on top form in this fight and overawe him with his speed.

Jones by UD.

McClellan had a punchers chance in any fight he was in, but I think Roy Jones Jr would be on top form in this fight and overawe him with his speed.

Jones by UD.

Agreed. McClellan was a phenomenal knock-out artist, but was also a good boxer. However, by the time he came to fight Nigel Benn he was too reliant on getting the job done early. He was ill-prepared for when the early knock-out never materialised. This kind of mentality would have done him no favours against Roy Jones Jnr, but like The Raging Bull says, there's always that punchers chance with a fighter like Gerald McClellan.

Jones would be too good to get knocked trough the ropes, and take Gman late, and outbox him.

I know alot of people believe Mclellan would of beaten Jones.
I think it is almost a 50/50 fight.

At Supermiddle Jones reflexes were amazing, he never got hit much, and his speed and power would keep opponents off. But from wat ive seen McClellan had a granite chin. He took flush power shots from Benn and Jackson without flinching.
He could take anything Jones threw at him, and i think if he caught Jones with a clean shot he would KO him.
Jones often let opponents push him back on the ropes and he'd cover up and counter. Im not sure he could take McClellans shots.
Benn moved his head and ducked punches making it difficult for McClellan to land.

Ive always thought Jones untouchable at his best, but if one man could destroy Jones.

I think McCellan would knock him out late, hes very underrated by most people and I think he'd be able to manage against rjj's speed.

Manny Steward insists that McClellan would of beaten Jones every time, and after the Tarver and Johnson fights hinted personally to somebody that it would of been an easy fight!

He feels McClellan developed speed at Kronk on par with Jones, but with better timing and heavier hands.

Manny Steward insists that McClellan would of beaten Jones every time, and after the Tarver and Johnson hinted personally to somebody that it would of been an easy fight!

He feels McClellan developed speed at Kronk on par with Jones, but with better timing and heavier hands.

I tend to agree with this assessment. McClellan was a complete fighter who was beaten because of weight issues and being kayo hungry. Jones chin problem would have been discovered yrs in advance in he fought Gman.

I know alot of people believe Mclellan would of beaten Jones.
I think it is almost a 50/50 fight.

At Supermiddle Jones reflexes were amazing, he never got hit much, and his speed and power would keep opponents off. But from wat ive seen McClellan had a granite chin. He took flush power shots from Benn and Jackson without flinching.
He could take anything Jones threw at him, and i think if he caught Jones with a clean shot he would KO him.
Jones often let opponents push him back on the ropes and he'd cover up and counter. Im not sure he could take McClellans shots.
Benn moved his head and ducked punches making it difficult for McClellan to land.

Ive always thought Jones untouchable at his best, but if one man could destroy Jones.

the Gman wouldn't get discouraged by Jones' speed, it would just piss him off and make him hit roy harder. i agree with this because i know the Gman could take roy's shots, but i'm not so sure roy takes his

He took flush power shots from Benn and Jackson without flinching

Not true.

He flinched!

But stayed on his feet..

Not true.

He flinched!

But stayed on his feet..


Well, he flinched when he got headbutts and rabbit punches, but not when he was punched.

Manny Steward insists that McClellan would of beaten Jones every time, and after the Tarver and Johnson fights hinted personally to somebody that it would of been an easy fight!

He feels McClellan developed speed at Kronk on par with Jones, but with better timing and heavier hands.

I dont believe anyone can compare the speed of Jones with that of McClellan.
He certainly wasnt slow, but he wasnt nearly as fast as Jones.

I tend to agree with this assessment. McClellan was a complete fighter who was beaten because of weight issues and being kayo hungry. Jones chin problem would have been discovered yrs in advance in he fought Gman.

I dont think he was complete by a long way. Ive never heard about him having weight issues, so maybe that was an excuse for how sloppy he was against Benn. But from wat ive seen of him, he had major defensive short comings.
He definatly sacrificed his boxing skills to KO opponents, but his defense against Benn was very poor at times. His gloves were low, he wasnt moving his head. And that was early on in the fight.

Not true.

He flinched!

But stayed on his feet..

True is did flinch. But my aggageration is justified by the fact he took clean shots on the jaw by the hardest hitters in the sport.
He didnt just stay on his feet, he was never hurt.

I McClellan lands a hook or straight right on Jones' chin its over. But Jones would try to outbox him. close fight. I pick either McClellan by early KO or Jones by UD.

Well, he flinched when he got headbutts and rabbit punches, but not when he was punched.

No, he didn't flinch at all when he got ***** little rabbit punches. However, he did flinch when he was punched by the hardest hitter around.

The headbutt was bull****, see on the ITV replay, it's just a dreadlock tapping his cheek. He went down in pain because he'd somehow that night withstood the hardest punches he'd ever taken and it caught up with him at that point, the 'headbutt' was nothing of the some sort, that stumble just occured at the same time.

"It would have been one hell of a fight. They both had equal speed and moves, but Gerald was such a heavy handed puncher." - Steward

"Looking at the time they fought, Gerald was the guy who could get close to Roy in terms of speed but it was Gerald's timing that gave him the edge." - Steward

i got Jones by stoppage in the late rounds
he was too quick,really strong at sr.middle
jones flurries woulda stumpt gman and made em cover up if he went through it enuff,and the ref would jump in n call it
Jones is the greatest fighter of altime if u ask me

Maybe, most likely not

I just can't see Gerald Mcclellan having trouble with Roy Jones Jr. Roy was Koed by Tarver, Mcclellan hit infinently harder than Tarver. The only word that describes Mcclellan is awesome. The best chin I ever saw at middleweight, and really the best one you would ever need, speed, boxing ability, and IMO the most powerful punch in middleweight history, and one of the most powerful in all world history regardless of weight.

Mcclellan KO early, he just bulldozes Jones.

well i go with the G-Man by KO.

He could go through Jones punchs as well as come forward with termandous pressure.

He was just a ferious puncher mercyless fighter.

i see what yall sayin
but Roy had great quickness,speed
awesome reflexes
in his prime,he woulda beat gman
cuz for every punch thrown at him,he would return 2,3,or 4 punches back at clellen
roy throws amazing combinations
packs power with awkward punches
i always said noone beats Jones at middle/sr middleweight

I still can't see how Roy could take out Gerald, his punches would be a joke to Mcclellan.

No, he didn't flinch at all when he got ***** little rabbit punches. However, he did flinch when he was punched by the hardest hitter around.

The headbutt was bull****, see on the ITV replay, it's just a dreadlock tapping his cheek. He went down in pain because he'd somehow that night withstood the hardest punches he'd ever taken and it caught up with him at that point, the 'headbutt' was nothing of the some sort, that stumble just occured at the same time.

it had nothing to do with the punches.. mcclellan was very cleary winngin he fight...it was a freak accident ... but i wonder how toney would of done.. i read he sparred mcclellan and "mastered him " he said mcclellan couldnt fight on the inside withc is true..

i do know McClellen beat Jones in the amatuers
but do u think in the pros mcclellan coulda outboxed roy?
roy's flurries were to quick n powerful
roy can overcome pressure(in his prime)
mcclellan woulda tried to take em out,roy woulda blocked,parried n dodged it all,then gave em combinations
all the way to a decision or stoppage
cuz if toney mastered mcclellan,roy woulda perfectly mastered em
roy is a master boxer,better than toney

mcellan hit very hard and could box but i think he would have a hard time landing on jones i see jones winning by wide UD but one of mcellans punchs could change that

Jones could beat McClellan but at the same time Gerald could beat Jones as well. Both scenarios are conceivable. I don't see Jones stopping McClellan though. The G-MAN had a wicked chin and Jones wouldn't have taken any chances to really check it anyhow. However i do think Gerald has a chance to stop Jones if he can get him in trouble its over. If Jones were to open up and try to punch hard i wonder if he could get McClellan's respect because Jones was a hard puncher at 160 or 68 no doubt. I would slighty favour Jones to win a decision if i had to bet.

G-man is too ****ing overrated......

G-man is too ****ing overrated......
agreed...

but i still give him a decent chance to beat Roy because of his power...

Jones would outbox McClellan, but i doubt he could hurthim. McClellan must have one of the best chins ive seen. He took full blooded shots from Jackson and Benn, and wasnt hurt.

Its either Jones by UD, or McClellan by KO at any point. But Jones had great reflexes and wasnt easy to hit. The McClellan that fought Benn was sloppy, his defence wasnt there at all, and he offense was lazy.

seriously G-man had zero defense and punched himself out in 4 rounds, not to mention he got outboxed by 2 journeymen(he wasnt in his prime, but still....) and destroyed by benn(i cant believe people actually had him winning.....)

roy runs around 5 rounds, some scary moments when gman chases him, all the while roy counters some shots, by te 5th round mclellan is tired and roy pot shots him easy for a UD victory...

seriously G-man had zero defense and punched himself out in 4 rounds, not to mention he got outboxed by 2 journeymen(he wasnt in his prime, but still....) and destroyed by benn(i cant believe people actually had him winning.....)

roy runs around 5 rounds, some scary moments when gman chases him, all the while roy counters some shots, by te 5th round mclellan is tired and roy pot shots him easy for a UD victory...

With Benn going down twice i had the fight even.
And McClellan wasnt destroyed by Benn. He took plently of huge shots, but was never hurt until he took a knee at the end due to his brain injury. It was hardly a real knockdown.

it depends on how the G-Man wants it he got the jab and speed,

truthfullythe G-Man corner at the Benn fight was terrible they should have stopped It wasnt Emanuel Steward who was there better watch the fight and I will tell.


But the G-Man is one of these type of fight who is going to fight anyone anywhere anytime type of thing and he is one of the few champion who stepped into England to fight Benn and that era the Super MW where top competition but each one was was staying in his countery

i thought mcclellan was beating him at 1st
then he fell off for the 3rd-6th round
but he had a good lead i thought
he shoulda got the KO in the 1st round
benn took like 35 seconds to get his ass up
a fight that should a been his win ended up his last fight
and to add insult
it was a KO!!!
benn clearly headbutted him and it coulda been a tech draw
but mcclellan tried to fight on
it was a disaster really
but mcclellan shoulda won that fight

i thought mcclellan was beating him at 1st
then he fell off for the 3rd-6th round
but he had a good lead i thought
he shoulda got the KO in the 1st round
benn took like 35 seconds to get his ass up
a fight that should a been his win ended up his last fight
and to add insult
it was a KO!!!
benn clearly headbutted him and it coulda been a tech draw
but mcclellan tried to fight on
it was a disaster really
but mcclellan shoulda won that fight

Benn took 7 seconds to get up, and did not headbutt McClellan.

Well, we do not know if the headbutt was intentional, but Benn did a lot of rabbit punching that was significant. It's been a pretty long while since i've watched this fight, but I remember Benn leading on the scorecards towards the end of it, even the last knockdown wasn't really because of McClellan. It really doesn't matter, Gman's ghost was doing most of the fighting. It's the kind of fight that a Boxer does not remember afterwards, the kind of fight that seperates the real warriors with the instinct from the ones who do not have it.
Ad for Roy Jones JR. I don't think McClellan would win. Of cource he has a punchers chance but normally we don't look at that seriously, I thought? Gman didn't have great defence wich he would have needed against Roy, because Jones would counter him off the ropes, maybe even take risks such as leaping hooks and slugging. But I doubt it. I think Jones would win a UD. Let's not overrate Gerald McClellan now, he never fought someone like Jones who wouldn't play his game that made him look impressive(Jackson, Benn) and we have heard James Toney saying he outboxed McClellan in sparring.

Benn took 7 seconds to get up, and did not headbutt McClellan.
no he took about 20 seconds
and he DID actually headbutt mcclellan
they made a big deal bout it towards the end of the fight
but it was ignored
and benn was rabbid punchin em throughout the whole fight
which is dangerous as ****
benn gotta fake ass win
and Roy Jones called his ***** ass out a little bit after that fight happened n benn aint want none

Well, we do not know if the headbutt was intentional, but Benn did a lot of rabbit punching that was significant. It's been a pretty long while since i've watched this fight, but I remember Benn leading on the scorecards towards the end of it, even the last knockdown wasn't really because of McClellan. It really doesn't matter, Gman's ghost was doing most of the fighting. It's the kind of fight that a Boxer does not remember afterwards, the kind of fight that seperates the real warriors with the instinct from the ones who do not have it.
Ad for Roy Jones JR. I don't think McClellan would win. Of cource he has a punchers chance but normally we don't look at that seriously, I thought? Gman didn't have great defence wich he would have needed against Roy, because Jones would counter him off the ropes, maybe even take risks such as leaping hooks and slugging. But I doubt it. I think Jones would win a UD. Let's not overrate Gerald McClellan now, he never fought someone like Jones who wouldn't play his game that made him look impressive(Jackson, Benn) and we have heard James Toney saying he outboxed McClellan in sparring.

that part doesnt really matters, unless you also want to count gman beating jones in the ams.

that part doesnt really matters, unless you also want to count gman beating jones in the ams.

What's important is when this happened. Jones and Gman fought in the amateurs. I believe Toney sparred with him much later than that.

amatuers aint the pros

hmmm.. just watched Benn/GMan for the WBC SMW title. If GMan didn't knock out RJ in the first or second then RJ would win (middle-to-late rd. kayo), no doubt. RJ 8 out of 10 times.

no he took about 20 seconds
and he DID actually headbutt mcclellan
they made a big deal bout it towards the end of the fight
but it was ignored
and benn was rabbid punchin em throughout the whole fight
which is dangerous as ****
benn gotta fake ass win
and Roy Jones called his ***** ass out a little bit after that fight happened n benn aint want none

Learn to count. Benn was up at 6, and back in the ropes by 8.

The 'headbutt' was actually Benn missing with a big shot, and falling over, his head or hair grazing McClellans eye.

I wouldnt call it a headbutt, neither did the ref or the commentators.

What's important is when this happened. Jones and Gman fought in the amateurs. I believe Toney sparred with him much later than that.

And sparring is not fighting, which makes it much worse.

Learn to count. Benn was up at 6, and back in the ropes by 8.

The 'headbutt' was actually Benn missing with a big shot, and falling over, his head or hair grazing McClellans eye.

I wouldnt call it a headbutt, neither did the ref or the commentators.
yes they were calling it a headbutt
yes hair did hit his eye....right b4 the butt
it was tragic for gerald

yes they were calling it a headbutt
yes hair did hit his eye....right b4 the butt
it was tragic for gerald

My mistake, Benn didnt miss with the punch, it actually connected, then he fell, and their heads clashed.

I dont believe the ref signaled at all that it was a butt. He immediately wipes Benns gloves as he gets up, then tell McClellan to stand up because he took a knee.

Persoannly i wouldnt call an accidental slight clash of heads as a butt.

What pisses me off is wen people say Benn butted McClellan, as if it were intentional.

roy would win his style is too unique and fast hands boxing from all angles and the pros are different from amatuers and i agree it was very unlucky for gerald to get hurt so bad cause of a accident head but poor guy it ended his career and yes i know it was hair that got his eye too but he also headbutted him quite brutally.

Benn also hit behind the head, A LOT, imho, without being deducted points. Those could've been the deciding factor, too, in him not being able to continue and needing attention afterwards. He had a concussion right, it looked a lot like he did.. the blinking, dazedness, etc..

roy would win his style is too unique and fast hands boxing from all angles and the pros are different from amatuers and i agree it was very unlucky for gerald to get hurt so bad cause of a accident head but poor guy it ended his career and yes i know it was hair that got his eye too but he also headbutted him quite brutally.

Wen did he headbutt him? Wen he fell over?

It was a grazing clash, i cant believe the exaggeration that it was brutal! :pat: