What system will win the battle?

xbox 360

cheaper
better graphics
more advanced inside the console its self
didnt take so long to get ****in released
doesnt look like a toaster
can change the face cover

PS3 might not have as many games now. Just wait untill 2007 come. It's right around the corner.

Killzone 2
Eight Days
Metal Gear Solid 4
Devil May Cry 4
Final Fantasy XIII
Resident Evil 5

**** more games. Im just listing a few.

xbox 360

cheaper
better graphics
more advanced inside the console its self
didnt take so long to get ****in released
doesnt look like a toaster
can change the face cover


SAYS WHO ??

somebody made a thread about it on here,a link to the gamespot site,and u run ur mouse over the pics of xbox graphics and ps3 and it like changes,and imo xbox was better

PS3 hasn't come out with any good games. Only games that came out are games that are also on the 360 and ****. Just wait for the official PS3 games to come out. You will see the best graphics that PS3 has to offer.

Metal Gear Solid might be ported over to the 360 because the company wants more profit (Cant think of the name)

And Resident Evil was already ported over to the 360.

And there is not much more the PS3 can do to really improve over Microsoft always has had the better -

Online.
Games.
Features.
And overall they're the leader with graphics, as of now.

So I dont think PS3 will be able to top a giant.

And there is already word of a Xbox3 in the making haha, so really Microsoft will not stand to be beat, if there is even a threat of it.

Metal Gear Solid might be ported over to the 360 because the company wants more profit (Cant think of the name)

And Resident Evil was already ported over to the 360.

And there is not much more the PS3 can do to really improve over Microsoft always has had the better -

Online.
Games.
Features.
And overall they're the leader with graphics, as of now.

So I dont think PS3 will be able to top a giant.

And there is already word of a Xbox3 in the making haha, so really Microsoft will not stand to be beat, if there is even a threat of it.

I have to disagree with you on the part i bolded. Sony has always made the best games IMO. PS3 was just released. Give it atleast a year and i bet it will do better than 360. What are they gonna add for Xbox3? A motion sensor now? Seriously... What more is their to add now? Systems are getting out of hand.. JESUS! lol

xbox 360 cause of halo and the setup of the system. enough said:boxing:

PS3 has mostly ports now so that is why some of the games look better on the 360. But I think later on in 2007, there will be more games created for the PS3 that will surpass the 360 graphics.

However....if the past is any indication, 360 will become a first person shooter console while the PS3 will be a console for every other genre. Resistance of Man is actually a very good FPS for a launch title. It can only get better from here on in.

The Xbox 360, equal graphics, equal gameplay, better online capabilities.

PS3 has mostly ports now so that is why some of the games look better on the 360. But I think later on in 2007, there will be more games created for the PS3 that will surpass the 360 graphics.

However....if the past is any indication, 360 will become a first person shooter console while the PS3 will be a console for every other genre. Resistance of Man is actually a very good FPS for a launch title. It can only get better from here on in.

That's fine with me.:cool:

i vote ps3, mayb im biased, but ive played both and definately prefer ps3

also, y do ppl always say xbox has better online,with the ps3 i never have trouble getting into games, have never lost connection, RARELY see people lag, plus its free.

i vote ps3, mayb im biased, but ive played both and definately prefer ps3

also, y do ppl always say xbox has better online,with the ps3 i never have trouble getting into games, have never lost connection, RARELY see people lag, plus its free.

**** the ps3:boxing:

thats cool:thinking:

its a toaster with abilities beyond burning bread

Sony may have free online, but I dont know about that anymore, do they still have that?

But anyway, having a free online console means hardly any of the awesome features you can get by having XBL.

XBL is 50$ a year but is much worth it, and they also have a free XBL now wich is XBL Silver but you just cant play games online, but you can browse game downloads and any other features.

Microsoft has been making software for computers for the longest time now, they're the Number 1 computer company, and they've been since computers first came out, considering Bill Gates started it all.

So dont be suprised if Xbox gets The number 1 online gaming award this year again.


I've always bought sony consoles and Microsoft, I dont have a hate for either one... I just know when I can spot out the better features in both of them.

Sony may have free online, but I dont know about that anymore, do they still have that?

But anyway, having a free online console means hardly any of the awesome features you can get by having XBL.

XBL is 50$ a year but is much worth it, and they also have a free XBL now wich is XBL Silver but you just cant play games online, but you can browse game downloads and any other features.

Microsoft has been making computers for the longest time now, they're the Number 1 computer company, and they've been since computers first came out, considering Bill Gates started it all.

So dont be suprised if Xbox gets The number 1 online gaming award this year again.


I've always bought sony consoles and Microsoft, I dont have a hate for either one... I just know when I can spot out the better features in both of them.


1.yea they still have it, i i use it
2. same with ps3, ive downloaded 2 games online from it, and i can search any website just like a computer
3. i dont really care what awards say

anyway, it doesnt really matter, no one is going to convince me that xbox is bertter than ps3 and im pretty sure i cant do anything to convince people ps3 is better.

First of all, Microsoft doesn't make computers. They make software for computers.

Microsoft Internet Explorer - One of the first web browsing programs to fully be utilized.

I didnt mean to say they made computers, I meant to say they made the running systems that run applications on the internet.

So they obviously know how to function with the internet and run programs better than any other competitor.

And the fact that PS3 can browse the internet webpages really would mean nothing to me considering I have a computer that I normally use that for. I usually turn on my 360 to play some video games.

The awards tell all, you may not want to believe them... but if something says "Best Online." or something along that line the facts dont lie, but it's up to your own personal opinion to decide which you think is better.

But sometimes if you've been a huge fan of a system for a long time, no matter which one is better you will always think the one you like is 100x better, it's just a personal fan boy opinion.

I personally could care less if either is better, I just play what I play, I was thinking about getting both systems... But I'm currently saving up for a better computer since I'm a avid computer gamer also.

thats like saying you can't argue a sports MVP award or something like, its all objective. i just dont get y of two things that are equal performance wise (as far as i could tell) the one that ISNT free is "better"

It's not the fact that it is free, it's the fact of which one is better quality and has better features.

And personally I think XBL has overall better features and has the faster, more efficent online gaming component. I mean the cost isnt that much of a factor when you get it for a lousy 50 bucks a year.

And with the fact of, most of the games comming to 360 there is not really a exclusive title competition as of now in the battle between the systems.

Last gen I preferred the Xbox because I like western RPGs more then eastern now the 360 has a ton of eastern RPGs and there are so few exclusives I prefer the 360 simply because its cheaper and I rather have the vibration.

It really is as simple as that. If Sony went out and got some D&D exclusive RPGs like Microsoft went out and got some anime RPGs and if someone released a 3rd party vibrating controller I would buy a PS 3 sooner but there is no reason to buy one now.

Sony comes out with better games IMO. The only game for the 360 that I'm excited about is halo 3 and that's pretty much it. Graphically 360 maby a little better but game wise i think sony takes it. Tht's just my opinion though.

Sony was just released.. Wait atleast a year untill them good games come out. I bet everyone will buy a PS3.. Don't lie.. You know you will.

I got mine! :D

I've never really liked any of the PS3 exclusive games because, none of them really caught my eye, or they either got ported to Xbox later.

But 360 has alot of exclusive games that are comming out that look astounding, but that dosent say much yet since no one has played them.

But right now, I have 360 down as the winner for best games.

I mean Gears of War took alot, I repeat alot of awards at the ****e TV awards.

BTW if anyone plays that, lets crack some skulls.

JesusxJuice = GamerTag.

People are really talking assward lets take a real look at games from both MS and Sony.

MS's 360 games
Alhambra
Banjo-Kazooie 3
Blue Dragon
Blue Dragon (Premium Pack)
Bungie Project #2 [RUMORED]
Carcassonne
Core Pack
Crackdown
DOOM
Defender
Every Party
Fable 2
Forza Motorsport 2
Fuzion Frenzy 2
Gears of War
Gears of War (Limited Edition )
Guitar Hero II
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Heavy Weapon: Atomic Tank
Hexic HD
Infinite Undiscovery
Kameo: Elements of Power
Kameo: Elements of Power Platinum Hits
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
Lost Odyssey
Marvel Universe Online [working title]
Mass Effect
Mutant Storm 2
Mutant Storm Empire
N3: Ninety-Nine Nights
Perfect Dark Zero
Perfect Dark Zero [Platinum Hits Edition]
Perfect Dark Zero: Limited Collector's Edition
Peter Jackson's Halo 360 Game [untitled]
Project Gotham Racing 3
Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft Wireless Racing Wheel edition)
Project Gotham Racing 3 Platinum Hits
Project Gotham Racing 4
Sensible World of Soccer
Shadowrun [next-gen]
Sneak King
Street Trace: NYC
Texas Hold 'em
Too Human
Viva Pinata


Sony's PS 3 games
Afrika
Angel Rings [Working Title]
Blast Factor
Boku no Natsu Yasumi 3: Summer Holidays 20th Century
Calling All Cars
Eight Days
Eyedentify
Factor 5 Project #2 [untitled]
Formula One Championship Edition
Genji: Days of the Blade
Getaway
Go! Sudoku
Go! Swizzleblock 2
Gran Turismo 5
Gran Turismo HD Concept
Gretzky NHL [working title]
Heavenly Sword
Hot Shots Golf 5
Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
Killzone PS3
Lair
Lemmings
MLB '07: The Show
Mainichi Issyo
Media Molecule PS3 Game
Monster Carnival [Working Title]
MotorStorm
NBA '07
Naughty Dog PS3 Project [untitled]
Ratchet and Clank PS3
Resistance: Fall of Man
Sarugechu PS3 [untitled]
SingStar
Team Siren Project [Untitled]
The Eye of Judgment: Conquerors of 9 Fields
Unknown Realms
Warhawk
Wheel of Fortune
White Knight Story
WipEout PS3 [Untitled]
World Tour Soccer PS3 [Untitled]
Zipper Interactive PS3 Project [untitled]
flOw

Now here is my point. Both publishers have good variety. Sony might still lack western RPGs but its not like MS has much more then Mass Effect and Fable. Still great variety and a likely equal number of elite games too. Even if you call yourself a hardcore gamer you probably wont play a 10th of those games so anyon claiming MS or Sony publishes better games then the other is talking out of their ass because you don’t know. Both companies are just starting.

I've never really liked any of the PS3 exclusive games because, none of them really caught my eye, or they either got ported to Xbox later.

But 360 has alot of exclusive games that are comming out that look astounding, but that dosent say much yet since no one has played them.

But right now, I have 360 down as the winner for best games.

I mean Gears of War took alot, I repeat alot of awards at the ****e TV awards.

BTW if anyone plays that, lets crack some skulls.

JesusxJuice = GamerTag.

Gears of war is so overrated IMO. For a next gen FPS it was lacking a lot physics which adds a lot of detail to games and the gameplay. Black should have won best FPS, you can pretty much destroy eveything in that game, buildings, vehicles, walls etc. The point of the game is to get creative with your kills and the graphics for a PS2 game were great. The ****e VGA is just a popularity contest so it was no surprise gears of war won. Ōkami should have won game of the year, it's not even a question, it's the most creative game and artistic game of 2006. ****e VGA is a joke IMO.

Both companies are just starting.

Sony has been out a lot longer than XBOX which only has 2 systems. So if anything, MS is just starting, sony knows what it's doing. It really comes down to what types of games you like.

Ps3 is too expensive.
They are very similar systems, but XBOX is cheaper and has better games.
Gears of War is another reason 360 is far outselling Wii and PS3 combined.

But Gears is not the type of game to incorporate physics, it just dosent really fit in.

The bodies tearing apart and pieces flying everywhere, mainly keeps your eyes focused on that. I enjoy the game alot, it keeps me occupied.

The only game I'm looking forward to is the new Battlefield, supposively they're working on making everything, ... everything destructable.

What Red Faction promised back when it was released, o how I remember that game.

Sony has been out a lot longer than XBOX which only has 2 systems. So if anything, MS is just starting, sony knows what it's doing. It really comes down to what types of games you like.



I would say they are both pretty much on equal footing when you look at their lineup. I don’t think Microsofts previous experience with PC games or the PS 1 makes that much of a difference at this point. The variety and the amount of games Sony and MS are working on for the 360 and the PS 3 are pretty similar.

I would say they are both pretty much on equal footing when you look at their lineup. I don’t think Microsofts previous experience with PC games or the PS 1 makes that much of a difference at this point. The variety and the amount of games Sony and MS are working on for the 360 and the PS 3 are pretty similar.

Sports games are sports games so if you wanna see which system is better you have to look really at 2 types of games, FPS's and RPG's and I would have to agree with you, they seem to be on the same page but I'm always a sony guy so I'm a little biased towards them.

Sports games are sports games so if you wanna see which system is better you have to look really at 2 types of games, FPS's and RPG's and I would have to agree with you, they seem to be on the same page but I'm always a sony guy so I'm a little biased towards them.

If you eliminate sports games and focus on FPS and RPGs MS has a huge edge over Sony right now.

Sony comes out with way better rpg's then MS, it's not even close, if anything MS leads in FPS but no way rpg's.

If you eliminate sports games and focus on FPS and RPGs MS has a huge edge over Sony right now.

Of course it does. PS3 has been out for less than 50 days since it launched Nov 17th.

played ps3 the other not need4speed carbon.. Was on high deff flat screen60" and i must say nothing really impressed me.. Graphics were great game play is good but after plalyin wii, everything just seems to be getting boring to me..

my first system was atari to sega then genesis, dreamcast to xbox and over the years graphics have gotten better but the games are all played the same with controller in hand.. after playing the wii, getting up and actually boxing with my cuz, swinging mmy hands like a golfer to drive fro 200yrds, trying to get the perfect flick of the wrist to get that perfect spin on teh ball while bowling..

he had madden but we never played, said it was hard, you actually have to make the throwing movements while acting like the quarterback/./ how sick is that??

was not impressed with need4speed on ps3 at all.

if i had to choose between ps3 and 360.. My personal preference would be xbox360 in about a year so they fix the glitches.. **** microsoft they come with wanted items.. but build them with no quality..

You should have played Resistance: Fall of Man instead. It's one of the few non-ports from the 360.

Try playing Call of Duty 3 on the Wii. You'll hate it. So far, the best game for Wii is what came with it: Wii Sports. I stopped playing Zelda last week coz it's just not as fun as the N64 version.

I got both the 360 and the PS3 and so far the 360 is beating the PS3 to death. However this time last year the 360 wasn't looking to hot either. I think the 360 will be equal to or better than the PS3 for 8-16 months then I expect the PS3's higher ceiling to start taking over.

BTW resistance fall of man is the only PS3 game which I have bought, but I have rented a few other games and downloaded some demos. I like RFoM but the others just seem like PS2 games with a little more spit and polish nothing really good enough to buy.

I rate GOW, GRAW and RB6 are all equal too or better than RFoM.

Of course it does. PS3 has been out for less than 50 days since it launched Nov 17th.

That has little to do with it. MS kicked Sonys ass in RPGs and shooters last gen too. Sony rode 3rd party support for RPGs because they had a billion exclusives from Japan. MS had to go out and get people to develop their own RPGs and they ended up with Bioware working for them a new Japanese developer created from top SE, and Sega people and Peter Molyneux working on super RPG X. Sony pretty much sucks at shooters so Halo and Conker is all MS needed and that’s pretty much all they had until Gears of War. The other genres are closer and of coarse Sony takes sports because MS sold all of their sports licenses except off road racing. So I would say MS has RPGs, party games, and shooters, Sony has sports, platformers and action adventure games while both of them cant develop a fighting game for nothing. Maybe Killer Instinct will be MS’s killer fighter.

That has little to do with it. MS kicked Sonys ass in RPGs and shooters last gen too. Sony rode 3rd party support for RPGs because they had a billion exclusives from Japan. MS had to go out and get people to develop their own RPGs and they ended up with Bioware working for them a new Japanese developer created from top SE, and Sega people and Peter Molyneux working on super RPG X. Sony pretty much sucks at shooters so Halo and Conker is all MS needed and that’s pretty much all they had until Gears of War. The other genres are closer and of coarse Sony takes sports because MS sold all of their sports licenses except off road racing. So I would say MS has RPGs, party games, and shooters, Sony has sports, platformers and action adventure games while both of them cant develop a fighting game for nothing. Maybe Killer Instinct will be MS’s killer fighter.

Two words, Final Fantasy.

Two words, Final Fantasy.

End of discussion.

I just wanted to qualify my statement on Xbox beating PS3 so far. I mean they have the better game lineup. Gears of War, Rainbow 6 however I have to disagree with an article recently published by Gamespot concerning graphics. They are misleading potential buyers into think that the 360 has better graphics than the PS3. The article compared PS3 launch titles against current 360 games. It was an unfair comparison in so many ways I wont bother to get into it here. But suffice it to say the 360 does not have better graphics.

That has little to do with it. MS kicked Sonys ass in RPGs and shooters last gen too. Sony rode 3rd party support for RPGs because they had a billion exclusives from Japan. MS had to go out and get people to develop their own RPGs and they ended up with Bioware working for them a new Japanese developer created from top SE, and Sega people and Peter Molyneux working on super RPG X. Sony pretty much sucks at shooters so Halo and Conker is all MS needed and that’s pretty much all they had until Gears of War. The other genres are closer and of coarse Sony takes sports because MS sold all of their sports licenses except off road racing. So I would say MS has RPGs, party games, and shooters, Sony has sports, platformers and action adventure games while both of them cant develop a fighting game for nothing. Maybe Killer Instinct will be MS’s killer fighter.

MS beat Sony in RPGs? I don't think so. Hell, PS2's RPG line up beats out the old Xbox, not matter how many Microsoft bought out. Quality over quantity. even the latest FFXII for PS2 is better than what Xbox had.

Two words, Final Fantasy.

One word
Sucks

Sony does not dev Final Fantasy anyway.

I said Microsoft has better RPGs then Sony not that the Xbox has better RPGs then the PS 2. I personally preferred the Xbox’s RPGs. I rather have games like Marrowind, Jade Empire, KOTOR, DX IW and Fable then all of those same ole same ole Japanese RPGs on the PS 2. Nevertheless that’s up for debate. Microsoft has better RPGs than Sony. You had Jade Empire, and Fable vs Dark Cloud. Dark Cloud is one of the few JRPGs I like but I am speaking for the gen public and Fable and Jade Empire outsold and got more awards then any RPG from Sony. So I would say MS had better RPGs last gen and their edge has grown now that they stole so much talent from SE and Sega and are working on Japanese RPGs.

I just wanted to qualify my statement on Xbox beating PS3 so far. I mean they have the better game lineup. Gears of War, Rainbow 6 however I have to disagree with an article recently published by Gamespot concerning graphics. They are misleading potential buyers into think that the 360 has better graphics than the PS3. The article compared PS3 launch titles against current 360 games. It was an unfair comparison in so many ways I wont bother to get into it here. But suffice it to say the 360 does not have better graphics.

I agree..... to those who said Xbox360 is better than PS3 you better do some research or experience the two.... there is no way Xbox beat PS3 in terms of graphics....

I just wanted to qualify my statement on Xbox beating PS3 so far. I mean they have the better game lineup. Gears of War, Rainbow 6 however I have to disagree with an article recently published by Gamespot concerning graphics. They are misleading potential buyers into think that the 360 has better graphics than the PS3. The article compared PS3 launch titles against current 360 games. It was an unfair comparison in so many ways I wont bother to get into it here. But suffice it to say the 360 does not have better graphics.

The Gamespot article was not unfair. It compared games that were in development on both platforms for the same length of time. FN 3 was in development for the PS 3 longer then it was for the 360 but it still had poorer lighting and they took away the motion blur, depth of field, and some of the 3D crowd. The 360 has a better GPU it should have better graphics so I don’t understand what Katz is talking about when he says do your research.

The Gamespot article was not unfair. It compared games that were in development on both platforms for the same length of time. FN 3 was in development for the PS 3 longer then it was for the 360 but it still had poorer lighting and they took away the motion blur, depth of field, and some of the 3D crowd. The 360 has a better GPU it should have better graphics so I don’t understand what Katz is talking about when he says do your research.

The GameSpot comparison was unfair and I guess I'll go into now. First off they compared launch titles versus a system which has had a year to tweak.

Secondly these games weren't even specificly for the PS3 they were ported.

Lastly they used component cables and put resolution to 720p so that the comparison would be "fair". They went down to the lowest common denominator then question why the PS3 didn't perform better :nonono: ?

It would've been fair to have the PS3 using HDMI cables and have it at full 1080p.

I'm sure if they compared 360 madden 07 and PS2 madden 07 using the lowest common denominator of AV cables and no HD at all it would be a pretty damn close comparison and PS2 might even win.

Of course the graphics ultimately depend on the developers but years down the line the PS3 will have a much higher ceiling and more potential than the 360.

The GameSpot comparison was unfair and I guess I'll go into now. First off they compared launch titles versus a system which has had a year to tweak.

Secondly these games weren't even specificly for the PS3 they were ported.

Lastly they used component cables and put resolution to 720p so that the comparison would be "fair". They went down to the lowest common denominator then question why the PS3 didn't perform better :nonono: ?

It would've been fair to have the PS3 using HDMI cables and have it at full 1080p.

I'm sure if they compared 360 madden 07 and PS2 madden 07 using the lowest common denominator of AV cables and no HD at all it would be a pretty damn close comparison and PS2 might even win.

Of course the graphics ultimately depend on the developers but years down the line the PS3 will have a much higher ceiling and more potential than the 360.

You kinda have a point with 1080p but even that’s debatable because the 360 wasn’t capable of 1080p while those games were in development so it makes sense for them to use an equal resolution. The rest of your post makes no sense. The 360 and the PS 3’s hardware are too different to port anything but graphical and media assets like models and scenery, which will always be ported with 3rd party games. There is no reason for me to believe the PS 3 has a better ceiling when it comes to graphics. The 360 has a better GPU just like the Xbox had a better GPU then the PS 2. The 360’s GPU is able to share memory with its RAM, and it has extra memory dedicated to aliasing, and HDR lighting. It has some big and a lot of little advantages over the PS 3’s GPU and asking developers to make up for those advantages with extra CPU power is comical.

One word
Sucks

Sony does not dev Final Fantasy anyway.

I said Microsoft has better RPGs then Sony not that the Xbox has better RPGs then the PS 2. I personally preferred the Xbox’s RPGs. I rather have games like Marrowind, Jade Empire, KOTOR, DX IW and Fable then all of those same ole same ole Japanese RPGs on the PS 2. Nevertheless that’s up for debate. Microsoft has better RPGs than Sony. You had Jade Empire, and Fable vs Dark Cloud. Dark Cloud is one of the few JRPGs I like but I am speaking for the gen public and Fable and Jade Empire outsold and got more awards then any RPG from Sony. So I would say MS had better RPGs last gen and their edge has grown now that they stole so much talent from SE and Sega and are working on Japanese RPGs.

Have you heard of this little game called Everquest? That's from Sony. In case you don't know how popular that game is, it is probably more popular than everything you just listed from MS. In fact...far more than the line up of companies Microsoft BOUGHT. Fable was a let down, BTW. You shouldn't have brought that up.

Anyway, the context of the conversation was which console had better RPGs, not which company made more RPGs.

You kinda have a point with 1080p but even that’s debatable because the 360 wasn’t capable of 1080p while those games were in development so it makes sense for them to use an equal resolution. The rest of your post makes no sense. The 360 and the PS 3’s hardware are too different to port anything but graphical and media assets like models and scenery, which will always be ported with 3rd party games. There is no reason for me to believe the PS 3 has a better ceiling when it comes to graphics. The 360 has a better GPU just like the Xbox had a better GPU then the PS 2. The 360’s GPU is able to share memory with its RAM, and it has extra memory dedicated to aliasing, and HDR lighting. It has some big and a lot of little advantages over the PS 3’s GPU and asking developers to make up for those advantages with extra CPU power is comical.

You can port and they have ported more than you think. What they can't port they have left out. Just look at madden and you'll see they ported it hardcore and the minigames that didn't work they just omitted. I've read up on the specs of both systems and I'm telling you the PS3 is bad ass. The PS3 is about $1000 worth of machine. Xbox will compete with PS3 not based on graphics but based on its online play. Xbox lives or dies with xbox live.

IMO 360 will always be ahead as far as online gaming goes...They just have it more together, but there is a draw back which lies in the fact that you can't browse the internet on the 360...

As far as overall Power the PS3 will be ahead after all the bugs are worked out and thats when you will see how great the PS3 can be...Provided that they're able to bring out the potential..

You can port and they have ported more than you think. What they can't port they have left out. Just look at madden and you'll see they ported it hardcore and the minigames that didn't work they just omitted. I've read up on the specs of both systems and I'm telling you the PS3 is bad ass. The PS3 is about $1000 worth of machine. Xbox will compete with PS3 not based on graphics but based on its online play. Xbox lives or dies with xbox live.

What have you read? I have not heard one developer or hardware analyst say anything other then the 360 having a better GPU. Both systems have the same RAM and the PS 3 has a more powerful CPU but a more difficult CPU to use. The PS 2 had a more powerful CPU than the Xbox and we all know which had better graphics. Graphics primarily come from the GPU or a card if it’s a PC and the 360’s is better. Its just that simple.

When it comes to porting, the hardware is too different to do a lot of porting. Its different in every way and the developers knew that and that’s why the PS 3 version of Madden was developed alongside the 360 version. EA was showing off both games back at E3. It wasn’t like they just took the 360 version and ran it on the PS 3. That’s impossible it just cant be done. Now they did take the models and the sounds and some of the same code but that’s how cross platform games (especially EA’s) are always developed. The engines that siphons the memory and the processing from the hardware to make the models and the media do their thing and give evverything lighting and shading were developed completely independent.


Have you heard of this little game called Everquest? That's from Sony. In case you don't know how popular that game is, it is probably more popular than everything you just listed from MS. In fact...far more than the line up of companies Microsoft BOUGHT. Fable was a let down, BTW. You shouldn't have brought that up.

Anyway, the context of the conversation was which console had better RPGs, not which company made more RPGs.

No if you scroll back you can see I posted the games both companies are publishing for consoles. I brought that up because there are going to be a lot less 3rd party exclusives this gen so 1st party games should matter more to consumers.
To quote myself
“People are really talking assward lets take a real look at games from both MS and Sony.”

You are bringing up a PC RPG so you are the one getting off topic. MS had their share of PC RPGs and I did not bring them up. I was talking RPGs on consoles and MS has a growing advantage. If you are talking about that Everquest game on the PS 2 then that game flopped a lot worse than Fable. Fable did not live up to the hype but it at least got good reviews and sold 2 million. Everquest on the PS 2 sucked and nobody bought it.

You can talk til yer blue, but the PS2 had better RPGs than the old Xbox. Hell, FFXII was released a couple months back for the PS2. Xbox? Abandoned.

in the long run ps3 is going to win this console war crap. but right now xbox 360 is in the lead. with sales and better games

You can talk til yer blue, but the PS2 had better RPGs than the old Xbox. Hell, FFXII was released a couple months back for the PS2. Xbox? Abandoned.

Pssst Final Fantasy is for girls.
How many PS 2 RPGs even gave you the option to make your own character. The PS 2 's had no variety. Unless you wanted to play some chap that looked like this you were pretty much lost.

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/300W/fs7.deviantart.com/i/2005/169/f/a/Van_from_Final_Fantasy_by_RPG_fans.jpg

Hahaha well put.

But yeah Microsoft knows how to handle themselves much better than Sony because Microsoft has been working with games much longer than Sony has.

Think of the first computers, Microsoft has manufactured most of the first games for the computer, they just have much more experience.

Pssst Final Fantasy is for girls.
How many PS 2 RPGs even gave you the option to make your own character. The PS 2 's had no variety. Unless you wanted to play some chap that looked like this you were pretty much lost.

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/300W/fs7.deviantart.com/i/2005/169/f/a/Van_from_Final_Fantasy_by_RPG_fans.jpg

Your reply proves you're an idiot. The point is, FF series has been outselling MS RPGs by a long shot. If you think it's for girls, it's probably coz you're a closet queen projecting your own ******y insecurity on others. If you wanna suck dick, just suck it. Nobody cares.

That's only because of the huge fame of that game in Japan also.

But he was only saying pretty much that the characters are horribly designed and there is no variety in much between games.

Some if not most of Microsoft's RPG's have the ability to create your own character off the bat, like Fable... the more evil things you do, the more evil looking you become.

That's only because of the huge fame of that game in Japan also.

But he was only saying pretty much that the characters are horribly designed and there is no variety in much between games.

Some if not most of Microsoft's RPG's have the ability to create your own character off the bat, like Fable... the more evil things you do, the more evil looking you become.

for Me Ps3 for having loads of game library.
i dont really care about the system attibutes since both comes from respected companies.
but since japanese game developers (majority of it) invest on ps3. it makes ps3 the clear winner.japanese games have wide variety compare to the american ones.
blizzard,rockstar and sierra (and the one who developed elder scrolls) are the few american game developers i like..

for Me Ps3 for having loads of game library.
i dont really care about the system attibutes since both comes from respected companies.
but since japanese game developers (majority of it) invest on ps3. it makes ps3 the clear winner.japanese games have wide variety compare to the american ones.
blizzard,rockstar and sierra (and the one who developed elder scrolls) are the few american game developers i like..

That's pretty much how I feel. I will eventually have all the systems but I'm focused on PS3.

Ahh, see that's where the PS3 downfalls for me.

I dislike most Japanese developers because I'm not a big fan of RPG's or MMORPG's.

I'm more into FPS, 3PS's, and most of that junk...

Ahh, see that's where the PS3 downfalls for me.

I dislike most Japanese developers because I'm not a big fan of RPG's or MMORPG's.

I'm more into FPS, 3PS's, and most of that junk...

Yeah I hear ya, I'm a huge friggen RPG fan so that's why I hold Sony so high. But I love an awsome FPS also, that's why I'm def gonna get halo3.

Yeah Halo 3 better live up to all the expectations haha, because that's one of my top games.

But I do occasionally enjoy MMORPG's and RPG's sometimes, fable was one of them... pretty damn good game.

But ever since my PS2 got destroyed I havent played PlayStation at all =/

So I'm a little lost on the SONY times.

Your reply proves you're an idiot. The point is, FF series has been outselling MS RPGs by a long shot. If you think it's for girls, it's probably coz you're a closet queen projecting your own ******y insecurity on others. If you wanna suck dick, just suck it. Nobody cares.

:kiss: LOL just because I don’t want RPGs where the protagonist are marketed to Japanese teenyboppers does not mean I I’m a closet homo.

Also the last Final Fantasy barely outsold Fable and was outsold by Oblivion and GoW. Mass Effect will probably come close to Final Fantasy sales as well. Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior aren’t as huge as they use to be.

Another thing both platforms will have plenty western and Japanese RPGs. The only reason there was such a gap last gen was because the 360 was doing so bad in Japan and most people who liked Japanese RPGs had a PS 2. On the flip side the PS 2 did not have the hardware for western RPGs so one console had western RPGs and the other had Japanese. This gen both consoles will have both. The 360 already has a bunch of Japanese RPGs and the PS 3’s hardware can handle any game on the market for at least 3-6 years. So like I said if RPGs are your favorite genre MS kicks Sonys butt and both platforms have variety so the 360 has the edge.

If all you want to play is FF then yeah most likely there will be more FF games on the PS 3 but dont act like that one overrated series turns the whole genre.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2534/fnr3awp3.jpg

ps3s graphics are the **** and the coll thing is theyre the launch games, imagine how games will look in late 2007, they havent even started to use 50gb blu ray
motorstorm looks better than all but one title from 360, and besides 360 is gonna get replaced by the xbox 360 black, and microsft always said play 3 had unnecesary things and now theyre ****ing copying it