View Full Version : how do i beat this sloppy guy in our backyard boxing?


boxingsmash69
12-09-2006, 01:55 PM
man, check it out tho, im da guy in white tanktop, and this foo in grey whoop my ass. please, none of that "get a gym and stop fighting in backyards" stuff, just cuz we dont go to a gym dont mean we cant try to box, or swing at each otha fo fun. now i know i box like ****/fight like ****, but i don't care how i fight/box in real life, i just like watching the sport. but for real, things i notice about that fool in grey, is:

1. decent stamina (i was hella winded after the 2nd round, he said he can go more rounds after the 3rd ended)
2. when he "dodges", he keeps his eyes on his opponent (unlike most starters, we look away when attacking/dodging, which is dangerous)
3. when he attacks wildly, he pays attention to the punches coming at him at the same time, not bad for the average backyard fighter who has never been to a gym
4. he's very sloppy, like all of us.
5. all "backyard boxers" NEVER pay attention to their defense, they usually just go wild swining for 30 seconds and it's over, they too tired to continue. this man pays attention, and looks confident, but like i sed earlier, he's sloppy as ****, just like all of us.

i know i took hella long to come out for round 2, i was scared and shocked from my first time taking hits to the face (my first time getting hit, and it's by 10oz amateur gloves)

i know you guys feel insulted that we do this without any real boxing experience and the fact that we just put on gloves and swing at each other without the proper technique, oh well, no law saying we can't do this.

i know my chin is never tucked in, oh well.

so, i just wanna know. what would REAL boxers do against someone like him? (real boxers who have the correct stance/footwork/punches/tucked in chin, etc.
what would YOU do if you had a boxing match with HIM?
with all that running away/leaning back dodging, what would YOU do?

i know any real amateur/pro boxer, or trainer would know how to take care of him easily, i just wanna know what you guys think.

if i was really into boxing in real life and actually wanted to try boxing , i would probably try to weave left or right away from one of those wide straights of his, and counter with a hook, but again, i suck

everytime he leans back, he's off balance, gives me the chance to hit him, but then again, i suck

everytime he his feet cross each other, he's off balance, and i know you're supposed to have your lead foot step left first, then your right foot follows after (if you want to move left), etc.

everytime he throws those wide swings, there's a chance to counter, but then again, i suck.

everyime we get close to him, he runs away, i dont know what to do.

i know, i suck, and i dont care.

what yall think? what would YOU do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19tRxce4_Ns

boxingsmash69
12-09-2006, 01:55 PM
here's another guy fighting that guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg7tfkUfpNU

hemichromis
12-09-2006, 02:09 PM
keep your chin down! keep your punches straight untill you are very close te go to hooks

its a shame you can;t corner him!

he has good head movement so maybe you should aim to his body he doesn;t look that robust.

i know you suck but learn counterpunching he looks very susceptable to it.

if hes better than you you should tr and learn from him


btw backyard boxcing is not a good idea why dont you find yourself a gym?

-Antonio-
12-09-2006, 02:24 PM
Keep your elbows in and your hands up, with your chin tucked in. When he comes in with those sloppy shots just eat a couple of them and counter with a short compact punch.

-Antonio-
12-09-2006, 02:27 PM
Why does every backyard boxer try to emulate Roy Jones?

boxingsmash69
12-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Keep your elbows in and your hands up, with your chin tucked in. When he comes in with those sloppy shots just eat a couple of them and counter with a short compact punch.

sounds good, yeah, i dont know why backyard boxers try to emulate roy jones. you need incredible reflexes/speed for that.

so it all comes down to countering those sloppy swings with a short compact punches?

Evil_Meat
12-09-2006, 03:40 PM
i cant believe no1 mensioned the jab... keep ur hands up chin down and when he throws a sloppy punch hit him with the jab first. work on ur timing as soon as he starts throwing throw ur jab and the jab will get there before the other punch. Once u get comfortable follow the jab with a right hand. The key is the jab and this guy doesent have a jab, all u need to do is jab him

boxingsmash69
12-09-2006, 03:50 PM
i cant believe no1 mensioned the jab... keep ur hands up chin down and when he throws a sloppy punch hit him with the jab first. work on ur timing as soon as he starts throwing throw ur jab and the jab will get there before the other punch. Once u get comfortable follow the jab with a right hand. The key is the jab and this guy doesent have a jab, all u need to do is jab him

makes perfect sense, the jab should always get there first before those kind of sloppy punches.

random775
12-09-2006, 05:02 PM
his punches are very very slow...
and it looks like he has no power behind them
he also throws off balance...
so hers wat you do
when he throws take one or two punches.. (shouldnt do much damage to you)
then when hes pulling his hand back.. like someone said get him with a compact punch... make sure you throw it right or else it wouldnt have any power with it (also make sure to throw it with speed so he wont be able to dodge it)
then follow with a body shot (ribs) after cause he should be a little weary
should knock the wind out of him, and put him in quite some pain

just learn to counter and youd be fine
like you said hes VERY sloppy

hope that helps

Evil_Meat
12-09-2006, 06:51 PM
I'm looking forward to the next video u post with this guy. If u keep ur hands up and work off the jab u WILL beat him. No way in hell a sloppy guy like this will beat anybody with a jab. Seems easy to do but the first step is being relaxed while fighting

Peterp
12-09-2006, 06:54 PM
Damm this is some funny ****

You are both leaving your punches out there, no snapping back at all,

You are both so wide open it isn't funny.

But i'll give you some advice to help beat this joker

Learn the full guard, keeping your hands up, let him attack you and take his punches on your gloves/arms ala Winky Wright, when his attack has finished, whilst his hands are all over the place and his chin exposed, hit back with straight punches from your full guard position to his exposed chin, as he recoils back from this shots, hit him with a power overhand right or right hook.

Super_Lightweight
12-09-2006, 06:56 PM
I've had 8 amatuer fights myself and I agree with EvilMeat. You have to compose youeself, which comes quicker for some fighters than for others. It's something you get better at as you fight. This is why fighters do so much roadwork. You have to be in good shape, even just to go 3 rounds.

Keep your hands high like Winky Wright as he throws his shots. This will block shots and also discourage him as he sees his inability to land as much on you.

Sin City
12-09-2006, 07:07 PM
Damn I've never taken a boxing lesson but even I have more technique...My lil cousin could probably beat on ya'll.. But its maybe cus my step-dad was a boxer and we are always play fighting and hes taught me a bit. Dude hops around to much try to cut him off get in close and get him of balance.

Sin City
12-09-2006, 07:09 PM
Oh and relax take your time and try to pace yourself through out the round don't just go swinging away, don't get discouraged, if you get hit don't get angry keep a cool head and stay relaxed, let that **** flow.

boxingsmash69
12-09-2006, 08:55 PM
my friend jonathan fought him.

jonathan in the black shirt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laz8wxRedCA

aljon
12-09-2006, 09:23 PM
my friend jonathan fought him.

jonathan in the black shirt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laz8wxRedCA

Do you guys hit like seriously or just fooling around because those punches are pretty useless... Try joining a gym so you could learn the basics at least.

Evil_Meat
12-10-2006, 11:50 AM
my friend jonathan fought him.

jonathan in the black shirt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laz8wxRedCA


see how effective his jab was at times... this guy can be beat so easy its not even funny. a person with a quick jab would knock him out easily

-Antonio-
12-10-2006, 12:04 PM
Any guy with a weeks worth of boxing experience would kill this guy.

fraidycat
12-10-2006, 01:25 PM
1.) Don't be so scared of getting hit. You're leaning away nearly every time you throw a punch, and you're flailing wildly when he swings because you don't want to get hit. You're going to get hit. Swimmers get wet; boxers get hit.

2.) Get your ****ing hands back after you punch. Think of snapping a towel. The force of your jab should come from pulling it back. (Excepting Dempsey's drop-step or a heavy, stunning jab; but A.) you're not ready for those yet; and B.) even those punches need to be snapped right back.)

3.) Keep your chin down.

4.) Keep one hand in front of your face, every time you punch. "Close the gate" -- even getting a sliver of your glove in front of his punch will be enough to keep you from getting your bell rung. There's no reason to swing your arms out wildly in powerful blocks. Use your elbows to block bodyshots. Letting his punches come in and blocking them close gives you twice as much time to react.

4a.) Your knuckles should touch your eyebrows. Doubly true since you don't have headgear. This will keep him from knocking your gloves into your face.

5.) He's a brawler (using the term loosely; he doesn't box well enough to even deserve a classification) so step in immediately with the jab -- keep it crisp and keep your other hand up! -- and whack him with it. Get him covering up and make him have to analyze what he's doing; brawlers hate that -- often, brawlers don't have many other strategies (and this assdagger certainly doesn't) ; make him think that his one trick won't work, and you will crush his spirit immediately. Once you've flattened his ego, step in with crisp jabs and kick his ass.

6.) Get boxing lessons. You show some heart, scrapping with a guy that much bigger than you. Take that heart and do something with it.

mgkirkpatrick
12-10-2006, 11:18 PM
yeah everyone has given u good advice. probably too much advice to absorb in one session but great stuff all the same.. quick summary... cover up. tuck the elbows and keep your hands high. pick your punches and throw them crisp. and dont be scared of that guy he's a chump. good luck man.

mgkirkpatrick
12-10-2006, 11:22 PM
o and do not spar on cement. u crazy ****s.

Hunna
12-11-2006, 09:32 AM
here's another guy fighting that guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg7tfkUfpNU

both vids are sloppy as, man, theres 2 many of those backyard outs on da net,... what goes on in backyard, should stay there, no putting on net, unless theres a mad KO, haha

boxingsmash69
12-14-2006, 03:30 AM
here's some other video of two dudes i know. that was their first time fighting, i have way more experience than those two, and i will fight both of them soon, and from all the tips you people gave me, imma wupp them, starting with the guy in red headgear first. :smileysex :smileysex :boxing:

they went 2 rounds (*******, i went 3 rounds), but the camera ran out of tape after a minute.


then i'll go for mr. sloppy for revenge

"peeleft:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vff26R8uJ8

kryo
12-14-2006, 12:06 PM
Why do you post the exact same posts on this forum as well as East Side Boxing? You get the exact same responses which are usually, "lol"'s and "go join a gym". 3 rounds, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! YOU'RE HELLA GOOD! SEX ME?:luvbed:

SquareCircle
12-17-2006, 03:07 PM
at 1:55 of the video, the guy in the white shirt takes some shots and runs inside his house. the part where he takes a shot and runs away, I keep rewinding it...lol, sorry.

SquareCircle
12-17-2006, 03:28 PM
clinch, and then push him off and go right after him, try to take that him out with a big looping right hand over the top right after u push outta the clinch. push hard and if you get in fast enough he'll be moving backwards from the push when you land the punch. or just back away, let him pursue u, and throw it as he's stepping in. he doesnt cover up with the left hand so landing a big looping right hand on him when he's stepping in won't be as hard as it sounds.

lead with it as he steps in,if u miss just step in and clinch, and try to land it again.

another thing you can do as he steps in, is take ur left hand and put it at the angle his straight left is coming from, get down and load up with a big right hook body shot as he steps in.

Toddy
12-17-2006, 05:30 PM
in my honest opion mate i have to say i really mean this. if its backyard boxing use your damn elbows lol

yrrej
12-18-2006, 10:46 PM
You are the sloppy guy. That guy has pretty slick moves, even if he never stepped in the ring. Maybe if you practiced.....

RockyMarcianofan00
12-19-2006, 12:40 PM
Dude that guy's technique is horrible, and he trys to move like a great speedfighter (ex: Ali), He's got absolutely no balance when he trys to dodge, and when he throws he leaves himself open for awhile...

Honestly to beat him all you need to do is get close to him. He's going to try and overwhelm you, just keep your hands up, chin down, elbows in...Once your inside unload on him. then again if you suck like this guy and you unload you might be in more trouble....

my advice for all those kids in the vids - LEARN TO FIGHT