If this guy had the mental strength of Vitali to go with his phsyical skills he'd be undisputed. He's got a good punch. A very good chin. He has hand speed and punches very very well in combination, something that 99% of heavyweights can't do. The number of heavyweights who can hook off a jab you can count on one hand, but unlike Wlad, Golota is fluid and relaxed. The second things don't go his way however he freezes up. The layoff for a couple years appears to have rejuvenated him the way it did Trinidad.

I always liked Golota. I was a big Riddick Bowe fan, but he gained my respect after that first fight when he whipped Bowe's fat ass. I really hope he can rid the boxing world of John Ruiz. For that alone he deserves a medal. i don't care if he KOs Ruiz or breaks his neck in a headlock and gets DQd. As long as Ruiz is out of boxing it's good enough for me. By any means. Thug style! :mad:

Some fair points there, I wouldn't say his chin is that good though, and he has no heart whatsoever and is severly lacking in mental strength, he might have enough to get past Ruiz (jesus I hope he does), but that'l be his highlight

If this guy had the mental strength of Vitali to go with his phsyical skills he'd be undisputed. He's got a good punch. A very good chin. He has hand speed and punches very very well in combination, something that 99% of heavyweights can't do. The number of heavyweights who can hook off a jab you can count on one hand, but unlike Wlad, Golota is fluid and relaxed. The second things don't go his way however he freezes up. The layoff for a couple years appears to have rejuvenated him the way it did Trinidad.

I always liked Golota. I was a big Riddick Bowe fan, but he gained my respect after that first fight when he whipped Bowe's fat ass. I really hope he can rid the boxing world of John Ruiz. For that alone he deserves a medal. i don't care if he KOs Ruiz or breaks his neck in a headlock and gets DQd. As long as Ruiz is out of boxing it's good enough for me. By any means. Thug style! :mad:

Is she serious? you want Golata to be DQ'd then Ruiz would still be champ!

This is why women shouldnt be boxing fans. Emotion before thinking :eek:

Eye,

I think its a He.

With titties like that though how can we be sure

Eye,

I think its a He.

holy fuk i think yer right. Damn she looks like a fat small titty chick. Man if he is a dude I would do something w/myself. I MEAN GODDAMN! :eek:

holy fuk i think yer right. Damn she looks like a fat small titty chick. Man if he is a dude I would do something w/myself. I MEAN GODDAMN! :eek:
Don't be hatin'

I have 4 kids by 3 women and I don't pay child support. LOL. I gets mine!

I don't mind if he loses to Ruiz as long as he permanently injures him. Break his arm, bite off his nose, something that keeps him out of the ring. I can live with that. I hate Ruiz. I'd rather something like that happen than Ruiz lose by decision. I want something traumatic to happen to keep Ruiz out of boxing for good. is that too much to ask?

holy fuk i think yer right. Damn she looks like a fat small titty chick. Man if he is a dude I would do something w/myself. I MEAN GODDAMN! :eek:

Do something like put a shotgun in your mouth. If you can find it....

Some fair points there, I wouldn't say his chin is that good though, and he has no heart whatsoever and is severly lacking in mental strength, he might have enough to get past Ruiz (jesus I hope he does), but that'l be his highlight
His chin used to be good. it's been cracked a few times. But I think with Golota its more about his confidence. He folds under pressure. I dont know if he can ever change that about himself. I don't trust him. i'd never bet on him. But just skillwise, he's light years above most heavyweights. He mixes off speed punches, he knows how to take the power off and how to use the jab high and low and knows how to mix in straight with looping punches. Opponents have no idea where the punches are coming from. He's not a one-two then hug type of heavyweight like Ruiz or Rahman or Oquendo.

Don't be hatin'

I have 4 kids by 3 women and I don't pay child support. LOL. I gets mine!
Um ok ikm not hattin. Ive seen that avatar quite a bit now. And I thought you were a large housewife. Now I know why yer avatar didnt get banned! Only female boobs. Dude yer fat do something w/yerself ASAP!

With titties like that though how can we be sure
Don't be hatin

I have 4 kids by 3 women and I don't pay child support. LOL. I gets mine!

Hey it's yer lie tell it how you like! :o

Um ok ikm not hattin. Ive seen that avatar quite a bit now. And I thought you were a large housewife. Now I know why yer avatar didnt get banned! Only female boobs. Dude yer fat do something w/yerself ASAP!
I get paid and I get laid. On the regular. By fine b!tches. So why change? I'm perfect. Plus I 'm well endowed. VERY well endowed. I'm 8 inches soft!

Why people always hating on my picture? Stop jocking me.

I get paid and I get laid. On the regular. By fine b!tches. So why change? I'm perfect. Plus I 'm well endowed. VERY well endowed. I'm 8 inches soft!

Why people always hating on my picture? Stop jocking me.

Come on man you never felt your knob since you was about 150lbs, how can you get you little sausage arms past that gut, the only **** you see is when you look in the mirror, and to fit your lardy ass in front of it, it'l probably have to be one of those funky clown mirrors but instead of making you wider they make you skinny (if that's possible) :)

You could have a 13 inch **** and DUDE you still wouldnt be able to see it. You don't get paid (from yer pick I day you still live w/ parents). You obviously and definetly don't get laid (I mean look at yer self. Hey like I said It's yer lie tell it how you like!

PS I shot that ****** TuPac!

You could have a 13 inch **** and DUDE you still wouldnt be able to see it. You don't get paid (from yer pick I day you still live w/ parents). You obviously and definetly don't get laid (I mean look at yer self. Hey like I said It's yer lie tell it how you like!

PS I shot that ****** TuPac!

Eye, if you read what he says in another topic.....he mentions ruphies. SO it IS possible for him to "lay" not "Get Laid"...."Get Laid" implies that his partner is concious and willing.

I don't care if Golota wins I take the Bo Hurley approach to this one, rememeber Bo Hurley from the movie over the top. He said that he just wanted to cripple stallone(Hawk so he can never arm wrestle again. I am hopping for a retirement from ruiz because Golota broke both of his arms off a clinch, **** you Stoney, Merckerson beat your ass!!!

If this guy had the mental strength of Vitali to go with his phsyical skills he'd be undisputed. He's got a good punch. A very good chin. He has hand speed and punches very very well in combination, something that 99% of heavyweights can't do. The number of heavyweights who can hook off a jab you can count on one hand, but unlike Wlad, Golota is fluid and relaxed. The second things don't go his way however he freezes up. The layoff for a couple years appears to have rejuvenated him the way it did Trinidad.

I always liked Golota. I was a big Riddick Bowe fan, but he gained my respect after that first fight when he whipped Bowe's fat ass. I really hope he can rid the boxing world of John Ruiz. For that alone he deserves a medal. i don't care if he KOs Ruiz or breaks his neck in a headlock and gets DQd. As long as Ruiz is out of boxing it's good enough for me. By any means. Thug style! :mad:

Chin? you mean Andrew "even though i won the fight i got rocked by Chris Byrd a few Times" Golota?

I get paid and I get laid. On the regular. By fine b!tches. So why change? I'm perfect. Plus I 'm well endowed. VERY well endowed. I'm 8 inches soft!

Why people always hating on my picture? Stop jocking me.


ah the internet, where you can lie about everything, and pretend its true because no one really knows who you are.

he is good put folds against hard punchers

He's very good. I agree, he panics against punchers.

But I think it's more mental than physical. I guess that makes it as bad.

I just hope hurts Ruiz and Stoney.

I'd like to see both of them end up like Gerald McClellan

Golota has world class skills!!! Before he just didn't seem like he really wanted to be in there!!! It seems like things are different now though!!! I think Golota will KO Ruiz later in the fight!!!

When he gets tired or frustrated because he has tried everything to put his opponent down he reverts to his low blow tactics. It happened against Bowe and Grant. Back then when he quit against his opponents his reaction to it after the fights would be to shrug his shoulders and act as though there would always be another day for him to fight. Now he is desperate because he knows his time is short and hopefully that enables him to fight through his frustrations and eventually win the fight.

Golota has less skills than Wlad and he panicks worse than Wlad if that is even possible.

When he gets tired or frustrated because he has tried everything to put his opponent down he reverts to his low blow tactics. It happened against Bowe and Grant. Back then when he quit against his opponents his reaction to it after the fights would be to shrug his shoulders and act as though there would always be another day for him to fight. Now he is desperate because he knows his time is short and hopefully that enables him to fight through his frustrations and eventually win the fight.
i agree. ruiz is a frustrater though, but then so is byrd. maybe golata IS getting over his deamons.

then again byrd fought him much more directly than normal cause king told him the other fights on the card sucked. if byrd fought him more like he did holyfeild, golata might've cracked.

this fight with ruiz will finally tell us if golata has reached his potential.

if he can stay composed with that guy hugging allover him i'll be convenced

Golota has less skills than Wlad and he panicks worse than Wlad if that is even possible.


it sux that both of them panic. :( both are highly skilled, regardless of reputation.

Golota has less skills than Wlad and he panicks worse than Wlad if that is even possible.but he dont get knocked down like the sticks becuase he has legs

but he dont get knocked down like the sticks becuase he has legs

Tell that to Lewis.

ah the internet, where you can lie about everything, and pretend its true because no one really knows who you are.


im not beiliving that picture is real and by the way he quotes malibus most wanted, im seriosuly thinking this is a well made joke account.

Do some of you actually believe the avatar put up by "Sweet Dick
Willy" is actually him ?

Are you really that freaking gullible ?

its too ugly for me not to belive.

funny thing is if he acted at all normal i wouln't have thought it was his realself.


but weather he's doing it as a joke or not his attude matches his pic, so i'll treat it like it's real.

you got your wish sdw we belive your a lying, obese, foulmouthed, pastywhite, ugly wannabe thug. hope your happy.

Jabs

Yeah. He acts like the person in the photo too.

[QUOTE=mr.thraz]its too ugly for me not to belive.

funny thing is if he acted at all normal i wouln't have thought it was his realself.


but weather he's doing it as a joke or not his attude matches his pic, so i'll treat it like it's real.

you got your wish sdw we belive your a lying, obese, foulmouthed, pastywhite, ugly wannabe thug. hope your happy.


And think of it this way he likes Gollota who like to feel guys. Gollota sucks and so does fat Willy.

Tell that to Lewis.
vitali would of got knocked out to if lewis wasnt fat and slow... vitali hasnt fought a in shape fighter yet as champion.. danny williams i say has a 50 percent chance to win and he would of been knocked out by tyson

There is no ****ing way Wlad ever beats Golota. Golota can take a punch and with the exception of the Lewis fight he gets up right away after he has been knocked down. Golota would put together a couple of combinations and Wlad would go down for good. Once again, I am a fan of Wlad's, but not a blind one. Golota would eat him alive.

There is no ****ing way Wlad ever beats Golota. Golota can take a punch and with the exception of the Lewis fight he gets up right away after he has been knocked down. Golota would put together a couple of combinations and Wlad would go down for good. Once again, I am a fan of Wlad's, but not a blind one. Golota would eat him alive.


i would LOVE to see that fight. either of these two things will happen: Wlad panics and passes out after Golota catches him flush the first time, or Golota panics when Wlad catches him with one of those ridiculous left hooks(i love that left hook :D ) and Golota bites wlad's face off. i would love to see it.

vitali would of got knocked out to if lewis wasnt fat and slow... vitali hasnt fought a in shape fighter yet as champion.. danny williams i say has a 50 percent chance to win and he would of been knocked out by tyson

7 lbs for someone who is 6'5'' is not that much to all of the sudden make some fat and slow and unable to knock someone out. Golota was destroyed by Lewis, Vitali wasn't. Notice how its always ok for Vitali's opponents to make excuses. Sanders is never in shape, and look at how much trouble Rahman had with an out of shape Sanders as compared to Vitali.

There is no ****ing way Wlad ever beats Golota. Golota can take a punch and with the exception of the Lewis fight he gets up right away after he has been knocked down. Golota would put together a couple of combinations and Wlad would go down for good. Once again, I am a fan of Wlad's, but not a blind one. Golota would eat him alive.

Wait so now Grant can beat Golota, but Wlad can't? What part about Golota not being able to beat big punchers don't you get?

Golota has less skills than Wlad and he panicks worse than Wlad if that is even possible.
Less skills than Wlad? LOOOOOOOOL.

Wlad can hook off the jab. But he doesn't punch in combination like Andrej. He doesn't mix body and head punches like him. Nor does he throw off speed punches like the Pole. Golota is far more fluid. Wlad is stiff as a board which is why he tires so quickly. He doesn't relax. Besides, Golota has 10 times better footwork to get off those punches. Skill wise it's no contest.

Do some of you actually believe the avatar put up by "Sweet Dick
Willy" is actually him ?

Are you really that freaking gullible ?
It's me. Funky fresh in the flesh! :D

Less skills than Wlad? LOOOOOOOOL.

Wlad can hook off the jab. But he doesn't punch in combination like Andrej. He doesn't mix body and head punches like him. Nor does he throw off speed punches like the Pole. Golota is far more fluid. Wlad is stiff as a board which is why he tires so quickly. He doesn't relax. Besides, Golota has 10 times better footwork to get off those punches. Skill wise it's no contest.

Byrd is the perfect test for ones boxing skills. We all know how well each of them did against Byrd.

Golota beat Byrd but got robbed.

To use a particular fight to judge how fighters do against each other is stupid. Neither Wlad or Golota fights like Byrd. Stupid comparison.

That's like using Bobby Czyz to determine how good of a heavyweight Holyfield is. He looked like ***** and as a result people said there's no way he could beat Tyson. right? WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRONG.

Byrd was Golota's first real opponent in about 2 years or more and he arguably beat him. Apples and oranges.

Golota beat Byrd but got robbed.

To use a particular fight to judge how fighters do against each other is stupid. Neither Wlad or Golota fights like Byrd. Stupid comparison.

That's like using Bobby Czyz to determine how good of a heavyweight Holyfield is. He looked like ***** and as a result people said there's no way he could beat Tyson. right? WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRONG.

Byrd was Golota's first real opponent in about 2 years or more and he arguably beat him. Apples and oranges.

You have a way of spinning out of the discussion. We aren't judging how fighters do against each other. We are judging who has better boxing skills. Wlad destroyed Byrd, Golota didn't. Arguably beating someone is not that same as pitching a shutout. Bobby Czyz is a horrible comparison to Byrd. Are you doing that on purpose or what? Czyz blows. How are you comparing him to the best defensive boxer out there today? And how are you comparing a Golota draw with Byrd to Holyfield TKOing Czyz in 5 rounds?

You have a way of spinning out of the discussion. We aren't judging how fighters do against each other. We are judging who has better boxing skills. Wlad destroyed Byrd, Golota didn't. Arguably beating someone is not that same as pitching a shutout. Bobby Czyz is a horrible comparison to Byrd. Are you doing that on purpose or what? Czyz blows. How are you comparing him to the best defensive boxer out there today? And how are you comparing a Golota draw with Byrd to Holyfield TKOing Czyz in 5 rounds?
Byrd the best defensive boxer today? Please. that's all hype. He's got good defense for a heavyweight since most heavies just catch punches on their face.

Byrd was very easy for Golota and Oquendo to hit.

Wlad has more power than Golota. That's why he beat Byrd so badly. But power isn't a skill.

The Wlad back then was as skilled if not more skilled than Golota. The Wlad of today is not. He's terrified of being countered and is afraid to let his hands go

Byrd the best defensive boxer today? Please. that's all hype. He's got good defense for a heavyweight since most heavies just catch punches on their face.

Byrd was very easy for Golota and Oquendo to hit.

Wlad has more power than Golota. That's why he beat Byrd so badly. But power isn't a skill.

The Wlad back then was as skilled if not more skilled than Golota. The Wlad of today is not. He's terrified of being countered and is afraid to let his hands go

I guess you haven't seen the Wlad v. Byrd fight then.

Golota beat Byrd but got robbed.

To use a particular fight to judge how fighters do against each other is stupid. Neither Wlad or Golota fights like Byrd. Stupid comparison.

That's like using Bobby Czyz to determine how good of a heavyweight Holyfield is. He looked like ***** and as a result people said there's no way he could beat Tyson. right? WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRONG.

Byrd was Golota's first real opponent in about 2 years or more and he arguably beat him. Apples and oranges.

not arguably, he ****ing beat byrd.

i would LOVE to see that fight. either of these two things will happen: Wlad panics and passes out after Golota catches him flush the first time, or Golota panics when Wlad catches him with one of those ridiculous left hooks(i love that left hook :D ) and Golota bites wlad's face off. i would love to see it.


im serious.

You miss my point. The Wlad vs. Byrd (a fight that I've seen) isn't not anywhere near the same Wlad vs. Williamson that we just saw.

Wlad has more courage puncing vs. Byrd who can't hurt him rather than someone like Williamson who can.

Williamson has half the skill of Golota and put china chin Wlad on the canvas.

Golota will put him 6 feet under

Wlad looked horrible against Shufford, who fought a complete defensive fight just like TOS did, and Shufford doesn't have TOS's power.

Grant has half the skill of Wlad and put china chin Golota on the canvas.

Wlad will put him 6 feet under or make him DQ himself.

Touch of Stiff is a journeyman. Joe Mesi had the courage to KO him and took him out in one round.

Wlad not only gets in a tough fight with him but gets knocked down cleanly in a competitive fight.

Joe Mesi is garbage and showed more assertiveness and willingness to win than Wlad. That's sad.

As for the Shufford fight, that's when I began to lose faith in wlad. The fight with McCline did it. Both of those guys were terrified of Wlad and instead of putting them out of their misery he played it safe and carried them.

That's what got him KTFOd vs. Brewster and what almost got him KTFOd vs. Williamson.

Put a scared fighter in front of Lennox Lewis (which Golota was that night) and he gets his clock cleaned in 2 rounds. Put a scared fighter n front of a prime Mike Tyson, he doesn't make it out of the round.

But with Wlad they last 7 or 10 rounds in a boring fight. Why is that? Wlad doesn't have the confidence or trust in himself. So he does nothing. Golota freaks out too, but at least he hits you in the balls.

Touch of Stiff is a journeyman. Joe Mesi had the courage to KO him and took him out in one round.

Wlad not only gets in a tough fight with him but gets knocked down cleanly in a competitive fight.

Joe Mesi is garbage and showed more assertiveness and willingness to win than Wlad. That's sad.

As for the Shufford fight, that's when I began to lose faith in wlad. The fight with McCline did it. Both of those guys were terrified of Wlad and instead of putting them out of their misery he played it safe and carried them.

That's what got him KTFOd vs. Brewster and what almost got him KTFOd vs. Williamson.

Put a scared fighter in front of Lennox Lewis (which Golota was that night) and he gets his clock cleaned in 2 rounds. Put a scared fighter n front of a prime Mike Tyson, he doesn't make it out of the round.

But with Wlad they last 7 or 10 rounds in a boring fight. Why is that? Wlad doesn't have the confidence or trust in himself. So he does nothing. Golota freaks out too, but at least he hits you in the balls.
dude put on a shirt,YUCK!!! that Areola is bigger than a damn Oreo cookie,just playing welcome to boxingscene :D

Ok so I guess a journeyman now can be a top 15 heavyweight. Did you see the fight because I am pretty sure you are just calling it competative in order to get a rise out of me. You don't get outlanded 3 to 1 in a competative fight, and lose a round on every official scorecard in which you KD your opponent.

Everyone seems to know the difference between the way TOS fought Mesi and Wlad. Its a lot easier to KO someone who is willing to trade punches with you.

Wlad did anything but play it safe in the Brewster fight. Wlad v. Brewster was nothing like Wlad v. Shufford and McCline. When you throw 70 punches per round chances are you aren't playing it safe.

Actually Golota lasted 1 minute and 35 seconds against Lewis.

Yes Wlad and Golota both have a big problem with panicking in the ring, but if you watched Wlad v. TOS, you would have seen how Wlad delt with his panicking in the 4th round a lot better than he has done in the past. While he was panicking he constantly clinched with TOS until he calmed down.

Well Golota, got a better chin. (not hard too acomplish).
But no way in hell big bulky steroid golota is faster. Have you seen him fight?
Wlad better power,faster,bigger.
Golota chin, lowblows, better confidence.
Skill eqeual.

Wait so now Grant can beat Golota, but Wlad can't? What part about Golota not being able to beat big punchers don't you get?


Golota was defeating Grant and then decided to call it a day. Grant did not force him to quit he made that decision on his own. Golota is mentally unstable but he still is one of the most skilled fighters out there and Wlad would go down hard against him.

I thought this discussion about Lewis vs Golota was answered awhile back. Golota was given a painkiller shot that night before the fight and he passed out twice because the Dr. shot him up in the in the wrong area. Golota was on cloud 15 when he entered the ring and then he settled a lawsuit outside the court with that Dr. Regardless, the Wlad of today stands no chance of defeating Golota. The Wlad that fought Ray Mercer, that is an entirely different story.

Golota was defeating Grant and then decided to call it a day. Grant did not force him to quit he made that decision on his own. Golota is mentally unstable but he still is one of the most skilled fighters out there and Wlad would go down hard against him.

So Grant KDing Golota had nothing to do with him wanting to quit then?

That's like using Bobby Czyz to determine how good of a heavyweight Holyfield is. He looked like ***** and as a result people said there's no way he could beat Tyson. right? WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRONG.

Did you even see this fight???
Holyfield beat the **** out of Czyz till the fight was stopped!!! I thought Holy looked great in this fight!!!

One thing about Golota is he does have a great chin!!! Sure he has been knocked down, but those were by some huge shots!!! The punches he took would have put most heavies to sleep!!! Did anyone see his fight with Tyson??? That shot he took in the first round was the same exact shot that put Botha in la la land, and he got right up!!! Golota almost didn't even go down from it!!! It even took Lewis who is one of the hardest punchers ever about 5 cosecutive straight rights to knock him down, and he got right up!!! Against grant was a different story!!! Golota barely got hit and was wobbled before a barrage of punches put him down!!! He looked as if he didn't want to be there and just quit!!!

Did anyone see the fight between him and that Samson Pao'uh??? He was hitting Golota with some of the hardest shots I have seen a heavyweight take, then Golota tied him up and bit him on the neck!!! When they showed the replay, Sean O'Grady said: Here's Golota going for the jugular!!! LOL!!!

When they asked Golota after the fight why he quit, he said that he felt with all the point deductions he got he didn't think the judges were going to give him the decision if it went that far. Listen, I am not making excuses for Golota's behavior in the past, he ****ed up his career by doing the stupid **** that he did in those fights. The topic is whether or not we think Golota would defeat Wlad if they fought and I believe he would because Wlad is a very fragile individual now. If he was afraid to fight inside against Williamson, he would be terrified of fighting inside against Golota because Golota punches alot harder than Davaryll.

When they asked Golota after the fight why he quit, he said that he felt with all the point deductions he got he didn't think the judges were going to give him the decision if it went that far. Listen, I am not making excuses for Golota's behavior in the past, he ****ed up his career by doing the stupid **** that he did in those fights. The topic is whether or not we think Golota would defeat Wlad if they fought and I believe he would because Wlad is a very fragile individual now. If he was afraid to fight inside against Williamson, he would be terrified of fighting inside against Golota because Golota punches alot harder than Davaryll.


He also said that his corner was telling him he was losing every round!!!

When they asked Golota after the fight why he quit, he said that he felt with all the point deductions he got he didn't think the judges were going to give him the decision if it went that far. Listen, I am not making excuses for Golota's behavior in the past, he ****ed up his career by doing the stupid **** that he did in those fights. The topic is whether or not we think Golota would defeat Wlad if they fought and I believe he would because Wlad is a very fragile individual now. If he was afraid to fight inside against Williamson, he would be terrified of fighting inside against Golota because Golota punches alot harder than Davaryll.

Everything about the TOS fight comes back to Shufford. The Shufford fight should really be mandatory viewing for everyone who thinks that Wlad looked like crap against TOS. Was Wlad also afraid to get inside against Shufford? He didn't seem afraid of fighting inside against TOS in the 4th round when he realized that he had to do something or he was going to lose the round.

Did you even see this fight???
Holyfield beat the **** out of Czyz till the fight was stopped!!! I thought Holy looked great in this fight!!!
Wow. You thought Evander looked good? he hit a blown up light heavyweight who was fat and slow with every punch in the book and never took Czyz off his feet. Who'd win the fight wasn't up for debate. It was how Evander, who was coming back after that mysterious "heart" ailmaent. The consensus was he was shot. If he didn't have enough power to drop Czyz there's no way he'd be ready for Tyson.

It's because of the Czyz fight why no one gave him a chance in the first Tyson fight. That's why when Evander did beat Tyson it was such a big upset. How can he KO Tyson and knock Tyson down but never KO Czyz?

That's what made what he ddid so remarkable.

Evander looked like ***** vs. Czyz. It wasn't that he won. It was HOW he won that was at issue.

You must not know a lot about the context of the Czyz fight and must be a newbie to boxing. Any veteran boxing observer would agree with me on this.

Wow. You thought Evander looked good? he hit a blown up light heavyweight who was fat and slow with every punch in the book and never took Czyz off his feet. Who'd win the fight wasn't up for debate. It was how Evander, who was coming back after that mysterious "heart" ailmaent. The consensus was he was shot. If he didn't have enough power to drop Czyz there's no way he'd be ready for Tyson.

It's because of the Czyz fight why no one gave him a chance in the first Tyson fight. That's why when Evander did beat Tyson it was such a big upset. How can he KO Tyson and knock Tyson down but never KO Czyz?

That's what made what he ddid so remarkable.

Evander looked like ***** vs. Czyz. It wasn't that he won. It was HOW he won that was at issue.

You must not know a lot about the context of the Czyz fight and must be a newbie to boxing. Any veteran boxing observer would agree with me on this.


Wrong!!! I have this fight on tape and watched it live as it happened... Czyz was complaining at the end that he couldn't see and asked the ref to check Holy's gloves!!! His eyes were all red too!!! That's why they stopped the fight but Holy gave Czyz one of the worst beatings he ever took!!!

Wow. You thought Evander looked good? he hit a blown up light heavyweight who was fat and slow with every punch in the book and never took Czyz off his feet. Who'd win the fight wasn't up for debate. It was how Evander, who was coming back after that mysterious "heart" ailmaent. The consensus was he was shot. If he didn't have enough power to drop Czyz there's no way he'd be ready for Tyson.

It's because of the Czyz fight why no one gave him a chance in the first Tyson fight. That's why when Evander did beat Tyson it was such a big upset. How can he KO Tyson and knock Tyson down but never KO Czyz?

That's what made what he ddid so remarkable.

Evander looked like ***** vs. Czyz. It wasn't that he won. It was HOW he won that was at issue.

You must not know a lot about the context of the Czyz fight and must be a newbie to boxing. Any veteran boxing observer would agree with me on this.


maybe he did have a heart ailment then. to look like that, and do what he did afterward.

Wrong!!! I have this fight on tape and watched it live as it happened... Czyz was complaining at the end that he couldn't see and asked the ref to check Holy's gloves!!! His eyes were all red too!!! That's why they stopped the fight but Holy gave Czyz one of the worst beatings he ever took!!!
Uh. You' dont get it do you?

Czyz got murdered. That's not debatable. Czyz quit. That's not debatable.

But the fact was, Holyfield hit him with everything and couldn't drop him. Corrie Sanders KO'd Czyz with one punch in one round.

Therefore, logic dictated holyfield wasn't able to hurt Tyson enough to keep Tyson off of him.

I was at Tyson Holyfield I. I doubt you were actually actively wtching boxing then. The Czyz fight was not one of Evander's finer moments. He never put a Czyz on the canvas and Czyz had been on the canvas before vs. lesser fighters at much lighter weight classes.

You clearly don't understand the CONTEXT of Holyfield's performance at that time. In boxing, a win isn't a win. It's how you win. Czyz doesn't make it past one round with Tyson, Sanders, Bowe, Lewis, Moorer or any of the top heavies at that time.

Therfore, Evander's perfomance as considered by and large inadequate for an aspiring heavyweight champion. Evander wasn't at full strength or at his peak for the Czyz fight. Even he admitted that.

Go study your boxing history then come back and talk. you dont know ****

Uh. You' dont get it do you?

Czyz got murdered. That's not debatable. Czyz quit. That's not debatable.

But the fact was, Holyfield hit him with everything and couldn't drop him. Corrie Sanders KO'd Czyz with one punch in one round.

Therefore, logic dictated holyfield wasn't able to hurt Tyson enough to keep Tyson off of him.

I was at Tyson Holyfield I. I doubt you were actually actively wtching boxing then. The Czyz fight was not one of Evander's finer moments. He never put a Czyz on the canvas and Czyz had been on the canvas before vs. lesser fighters at much lighter weight classes.

You clearly don't understand the CONTEXT of Holyfield's performance at that time. In boxing, a win isn't a win. It's how you win. Czyz doesn't make it past one round with Tyson, Sanders, Bowe, Lewis, Moorer or any of the top heavies at that time.

Therfore, Evander's perfomance as considered by and large inadequate for an aspiring heavyweight champion. Evander wasn't at full strength or at his peak for the Czyz fight. Even he admitted that.

Go study your boxing history then come back and talk. you dont know ****


Oh ok Mrs. Butterworth. I Have been a huge boxing fan all my life and I actually picked Holy over Tyson that night and everyone said I was crazy!!! Just cause we don't agree on a fighters performance I don't know **** about boxing??? Czyz fought with heart that night!!! Holy was trying his damnedest to finish the fight as fast as possible and your right, he couldn't. It was just a matter of time though!!! Czyz wasn't just some push over, he was a former world champ at different weights!!! And according to what everyone else on this board is saying about you... You don't know ****!!! ;)

Golata may be the best skilled fighter in the heavy weights now but thats because everyone else just sucks. He has to have one of the worst chins in the sport I have seen in a long time and how he keeps getting on big cards is beyond me

Eye,

I think its a He.
lmao
that made my day happier

A good chin? LMFAO! c'mon kaps, I mean willy.

We talking about the same Golota who on paper lost to every single worthy opponent, the one who quit on his stool on the 2nd round with a hungover(or something like that) Mike Tyson?

golota fukin sucks ballz he alwayz getz knocked out in like the 5 rd down thats all ..he would get charged on and these kids just knock his ass out l ol hes wack ....done

Golata may be the best skilled fighter in the heavy weights now but thats because everyone else just sucks. He has to have one of the worst chins in the sport I have seen in a long time and how he keeps getting on big cards is beyond me
WTF did you bring up a Thread from October of LAST YEAR???

I dunno what that fat azz thought when he started this thread. This gotta be the one of the worst BS that should be trash and not ever recycled again. I dunno why he even retrieved that sorry Golota from obscurity.

If this guy had the mental strength of Vitali to go with his phsyical skills he'd be undisputed. He's got a good punch. A very good chin. He has hand speed and punches very very well in combination, something that 99% of heavyweights can't do. The number of heavyweights who can hook off a jab you can count on one hand, but unlike Wlad, Golota is fluid and relaxed. The second things don't go his way however he freezes up. The layoff for a couple years appears to have rejuvenated him the way it did Trinidad.

I always liked Golota. I was a big Riddick Bowe fan, but he gained my respect after that first fight when he whipped Bowe's fat ass. I really hope he can rid the boxing world of John Ruiz. For that alone he deserves a medal. i don't care if he KOs Ruiz or breaks his neck in a headlock and gets DQd. As long as Ruiz is out of boxing it's good enough for me. By any means. Thug style! :mad:

Golota rules.

Don't be hatin'

I have 4 kids by 3 women and I don't pay child support. LOL. I gets mine!

That's nothing to be proud of. :rolleyes: Be a man and support your kids.